Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oxford University Wine Society


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The result was delete.  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )  08:31, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Oxford University Wine Society

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prodded it with the following rationale: "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing General notability guideline and the more detailed Notability (companies) requirement." It was restored after anonymous request at Requests_for_undeletion/Archive_272 "Appears to have been maliciously or accidentally deleted ". Well, the proposal was neither malicious nor accidental, the article however is based on mentions in passing, primary sources and IMHO fails GNG. Comments? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 07:43, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your hard work reviewing Wikipedia articles, and strong commitment to Wikipedia. I think this Society is a well-known University student-led association (not a company) within the UK and particularly within the wine trade internationally. For many wine trade visiting the UK, participating in a wine tasting at Oxford is very highly regarded. As regards to notability, it has been featured in the non-fiction textbook that documents the definitive history of wine societies across Oxford University (which gave rise to the likes of Jancis Robinson and Oz Clarke, internationally famous wine critics). It has also had numerous wine trade magazine wine trade articles written about it, both nationally and internationally (e.g. the Japanese wine trade magazine article is referenced). Numerous past-members and committee have also since entered the international wine trade. On this basis I would say it is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.180.128.10 (talk) 11:37, 26 June 2017 (UTC)


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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Discussion of reliable, secondary sources, please

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar  21:32, 30 June 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete GNG not met. Notability is not inherited. Exemplo347 (talk) 01:48, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   06:49, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete No sources available to support GNG. I've found a handful of book sources which mention the society in the passing. But that's obviously not enough. Lourdes  11:55, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
 * There's a reasonably substantial mention (12 lines) in The Juice: Vinous Veritas and the role of wine expert Jacques Seysses. There's a decent mention on the Buxton International Festival and the role of Oz Clarke, admitting women for the first time and creating the England Wine Tasting Team. Some sources seem to be under Bacchus not OUWS. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:47, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello Chiswick Chap. I'd seen the sources earlier and believe they are insignificant. For example, I see only one line in both the sources you've listed. The first source has only the following line (not 12 lines): "...but he also joined the Oxford University Wine Society, becoming part of the blind-tasting team that crushed Cambridge three years in a row." The second source has the following line: "He “democratised” the Oxford University Wine Society, bringing women into the club..." These are too insignificant. If I've made a mistake in reading the sources, my apologies; please do feel free to point out if I've read this wrongly. Thanks. Lourdes  16:29, 8 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete Virtually nothing found on news sources. Not enough evidence (in my opinion) of significant notability. Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 23:14, 10 July 2017 (UTC)


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