Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ozan Özerk


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Missvain (talk) 16:59, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Ozan Özerk

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The article reads like a resume that is based only on primary sources. I wasn't able to find any secondary sources on the subject. In fact, the Turkish version, which apparently had the same sources, was put up for a deletion discussion and deleted after a thorough review of the references. I think the article has also been written by someone closely associated with the subject. Keivan.f Talk 05:45, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
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 * Keep: from my understanding he founded the Norwegian media company Norsk Ideutvikling and the social-networking site Biip.no, which does give him notability. I agree that the English article is written terribly like a CV, which I've tried to briefly clean up. I can work on it some more. Also, in Norwegian sources his name will appear as "Ozan Øzerk" rather than "Ozan 'Özerk" which can limit search results. Sseevv (talk) 11:05, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Further comment: I looked at the sources and only one of the references was a primary source (which has been removed now), the rest were just incorrectly cited by whoever worked on this article (they include articles in notable publications by Dagens Næringsliv, Digi.no, Nettavisen, Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation, Fremover, University of Tromsø). Sseevv (talk) 13:27, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Any English-language sources? I haven’t been able to find any. Also, founding a network doesn’t make him notable, unless the network itself is of great importance and prominence. I’d suggest we look more into the sources and try to figure out whether those networks themselves are actually notable. Also, as I cannot read Norwegian, my question would be are those sources that you listed (Dagens Næringsliv, Digi.no, Nettavisen, Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation, Fremover, University of Tromsø) merely mentioning his name or are they talking about his work in detail? Until then I wouldn’t entirely reject the possibility of either keeping or deleting it. Keivan.f  Talk 09:17, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * One cannot measure notability based on English sources - the world is much bigger. These publishers are widely used on Wikipedia, I see no problem here. He was a co-founder of the most successful Norwegian social-media site, and a published medical researcher for the World Health Organization. I'm surprised this is even a debate now - though I did initially agree with your observations on how poorly the article was originally written. Sseevv (talk) 22:55, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I was just curious to see whether there are any English sources or not, otherwise it's totally fine to have sources in other languages as long as they are reliable. If he has had a prominent career, then the article could stay. However, the section on his business career needs improvement and is barely sourced, except for the first sentence. I'd be glad if other users were able to provide some insight and perhaps contribute a little bit to both the article and this discussion, especially those who might know Norwegian. Keivan.f  Talk 19:39, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 00:48, 8 December 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 15:57, 16 December 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Third time is the charm.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 16:06, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. One cannot buy notability, nor can it be asserted from a WP:BOMBARDment of sources that don't actually show notability of the subject.  Even owning a (small) bank or a social network does not make you notable; the coverage has to be about you.  I cannot find anything (though admittedly I do not speak Norwegian and am relying heavily on Google Translate) except the one local news article that describes him as wealthy but is otherwise insubstantial - other sources are either about other people (his parents), companies, or passing mentions of the guy.  I suggest a review of WP:PSEUDO, and perhaps articles can be created on his companies; we should stop creating articles about people simply because they are rich.  They do not WP:INHERIT notability from their companies or assets.  FalconK (talk) 01:47, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Also said it in the AfD in the Turkish Wikipedia. There are no reliable sources about the subject. Most of them are related to his companies. Sources only briefly mention his name. Notability is not inherited, so being the co-founder of the most successful Norwegian social-media site doesn't mean anything unless there are also reliable sources that cover the subject in depth. ~Styyx   Talk? ^-^  18:37, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
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