Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/P.O.H.U.I.


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus appears to be that all remaining problems with the article can be fixed by normal editing. At the worst case, editors have suggested restoring a redirect. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  17:36, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

P.O.H.U.I.

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Translated page from the Romanian Wikipedia. Very poor state and not really notable. Cartoon network freak (talk) 16:17, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 16:38, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 18:26, 3 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment: firstly, I think the "Romania Top 100" and "Media Forest" charts are one and the same, because in 2013 the only chart in Romania was the Airplay Top 100, compiled by Media Forest. That chart was broadcast on the Romanian radio station Kiss FM, and the song certainly reached at least number three on that chart, because there is an archived copy of Kiss FM's podcast of the chart of 9 June 2013 - you have to download the podcast in order to be able to listen to it, and the song comes in at 2:18:10. But the Moldovan chart position can't be verified, and unless someone can come up with some good sources in Romanian, a redirect to Carla's Dreams seems to be the best option, as the band is unquestionably notable in Moldova and Romania. Richard3120 (talk) 22:06, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect: The charts are indeed messed up in that article; for an overview of the charts operated in Romania, see Romanian music charts. The song attained some commercial success, but it isn't enough for a stand-alone article in my opinion. Redirect as well. Cartoon network freak (talk) 23:01, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - worth noting that there seems to be a lot more results in Russian (the name of the song means "I don't give an F" in Russian). My Russian is not nearly good enough to contribute to sourcing, but perhaps we can get some native input? Skirts89 15:53, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to Carla's Dreams as it is a viable search term, but it does not appear to satisfy notability requirements. Aoba47 (talk) 04:14, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 00:19, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Romania-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 00:30, 11 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. The song charted in Romania, so it is notable. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 00:39, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Has the song received any coverage from third-party, reliable sources? If so, could you please either list them here or include them in the article? You are correct that charting does indicate some notability, but it only indicates a limited sense of notability. Chart placements can easily be communicated in the artist's main page, without the need for a separate article. I would suggest that either "keep" voters address this. Aoba47 (talk) 14:25, 12 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep - After some research, I think the song is indeed notable. The song charted in Moldova as well as in Romania, per Eastmain's comment above. Skirts89 15:57, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - Regardless of the decision of this AfD, I have gone through the article to better translate into native English. Skirts89 16:14, 11 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment:  the problem is that while we can prove that the song charted in two countries, there are no sources at all so far for any of the text... if we can't locate any sources to provide some prose for the article, I'm not sure we should be keeping permastubs which consist of just two chart placings and nothing else – it's better just to include that information in a discography table. Richard3120 (talk) 16:46, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree with the above message. I posted a similar comment as a response to one of the "keep" votes above. Aoba47 (talk) 21:36, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   14:46, 18 February 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.