Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PBA 5,000 Point Club


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The result was   delete all. Beeblebrox (talk) 05:44, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

PBA point totals

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3 unsourced articles giving career point statistics for athletes. It is unclear whether these "point clubs" actually exist as an actual official list or institution or whether these lists are purely OR. Travelbird (talk) 07:14, 16 January 2011 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Logan Talk Contributions 06:00, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. It would be much better to list these people in an article called List of Philippine Basketball Association career scoring leaders, along the lines of List of National Basketball Association career scoring leaders. This particular way of displaying the data is not the best way to handle it. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:27, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete the 5,000- and 10,000-point articles. Why bother creating a list with those who scored 5,000 or 10,000 points when you then create a list with players who have scored 15,000 points? The 15,000-point list completely absorbs the previous two. It's redundant. However, I !vote keep for the 15,000 point article. It just needs to be renamed. Jrcla2 (talk) 14:34, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Vice versa, right? The 5,000-point list includes everyone who scored 10,000 or 15,000 points, but not the other way around. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:18, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * No, I believe that the way I phrased it is correct. Players who qualify to be on the 15,000-point list are, by default, already eligible for the 5,000 and 10,000 point lists, making the latter two redundant. Jrcla2 (talk) 15:12, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * That's fine if that's what you prefer. I just want to clarify that deleting the 5K and 10K Point Clubs and leaving the 15K Point Club means that the players who scored between 5,000 and 14,999 points are going to be left out of coverage here. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 17:05, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
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 * Comment The other major problem with these articles is that that absolutely no sources are given, so that we cannot verify if these numbers are actually correct or not. Travelbird (talk) 17:25, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * On that account, then I agree with its deletion. If absolutely no references can be provided then even if it's all accurate, it would still be classified as WP:OR. Delete until refs provided, but if they are, then keep. Jrcla2 (talk) 21:58, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Delete due to no sourcing provided and no significant improvement to these lists since the AfD began. However, I could still support the creation of a replacement article titled List of Philippine Basketball Association career scoring leaders if it were sourced. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:48, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment These are about the Philippine Basketball Association rather than the Professional Bowlers Association, and they would have been wonderful if the author had let us know where he or she got the information. I can't find it in what would be the most logical place .  Coulda been a keeper, but the first principle of an encyclopedia is that the reliability of the information is beyond doubt.  Mandsford 14:24, 1 February 2011 (UTC)


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JMV VILLOCILLO mVP 100 points per game 200 rebounds per game 500 steals per game 1000 assists per game Mvp — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.85.4.98 (talk) 02:43, 9 December 2013 (UTC)