Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PBC Foundation


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The result was merge to Primary biliary cirrhosis.  Sandstein  20:39, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

PBC Foundation

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The organization's claim to notability is that they promoted the term primary biliary cholangitis as a replacement for the more common name primary biliary cirrhosis. Unfortunately, I was unable to find enough reliable coverage for this foundation. A search results mostly in press releases, brief mentions, articles about primary biliary cirrhosis/primary biliary cholangitis, and quotes by people related to the foundation. Sadly, I couldn't find much about the foundation itself. Wikipedia is not here to tell the world about your noble cause. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:16, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I hope other editors will visit this page and add more to it to improve the entry rather than deleting it. This UK-based patient-support charity is the main group for a disease affecting up to 1:1000 women.  It seems similar to many of the other 210 entries in the Category:Health charities in the United Kingdom such the British Heart Foundation, Coeliac UK, Diabetes UK, or Tourettes Action.Jrfw51 (talk) 10:50, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:48, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:43, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Redirect Merge to Primary biliary cirrhosis - the intro is a bit sketchy. It claims to successfully lobbied to have rename the disease from Primary biliary cirrhosis to primary biliary cholangitis (latter redirects to the first), but I see no evidence of this in the article or in my searches, which still refer to the disease as Primary biliary cirrhosis. Certainly, a foundation would receive significant coverage if it managed to have a disease renamed, but there is no evidence of this. I'm sure the organization does great work and would love to recommend keep, but I can't find any in-depth coverage of it. I see it mentioned in a few articles but nothing that would satisfy GNG. —Мандичка YO 😜 07:00, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge back into Primary biliary cirrhosis, where it came from, before someone wanted to remove it from there... GangofOne (talk) 07:56, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Narutolovehinata5 refered to the essay "Wikipedia is not here to tell the world about your noble cause"; no, Wikipedia is not here to tell the world, it is here to tell just the people who want to read the article Primary biliary  cirrhosis, who might be interested, who might find it a significant organization, and to whom it might be a matter of life or death. GangofOne (talk) 08:04, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The aricle Primary biliary cirrhosis was not tagged for deletion, and there's no reason why they can't read about the organization there or on the PBC Foundation's website. —Мандичка YO 😜 09:18, 19 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment As the originator of this entry, I want to point out again that there are hundreds (? thousands) of similar pages on patient support charities and similar organizations for multiple disorders. Category:Health charities in the United Kingdom (for just one country) and Category:Medical and health organizations by medical condition.  The charity is not the disease.
 * The PBC Foundation advises patients, supports fundamental research and campaigns for greater recognition. The name change initiative is only the latest campaign. There are multiple references in major international research publications (Nature Genetics) and in the UK National media (BBC, Scotsman) which are cited. It easily meets the criteria for WP:notability_(organizations_and_companies).
 * Searches for the new name of PBC will not find the new name in the published press -- as it is new! Please read Primary biliary cholangitis references [5], [6] and [45] to get the information necessary and repeat the search again in 3 months. I will improve the entry some more.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrfw51 (talk • contribs) 11:23, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Please read Other stuff exists. Just because Wikipedia has articles for many charities doesn't necessarily mean this one should have an article as well. Each article must stand on its own merits (meaning, they should pass our notability guidelines). Perhaps those other charities pass our notability guidelines (maybe they have been covered in reliable sources). But from the looks of things, this one doesn't make the cut. Which is a shame since charities do a lot of great things. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 15:24, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Have you checked the Scholar links? Jrfw51 (talk) 19:37, 21 July 2015 (UTC)


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