Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PHP Fat-Free Framework


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The result was   delete.   A rbitrarily 0   ( talk ) 16:38, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

PHP Fat-Free Framework

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The subject is a non-notable piece of software. The article was created by, and maintained by the developer of the software, and when challenged to produce reliable sources to show how the software is notable, he could not do so. My own searches for such sources have come up empty, and the current sources are to blogs or the Sourceforge project page of the software itself. --  At am a  頭 22:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)


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 * Delete. I can't find anything either. Keeping this on my watchlist in case someone does. The convoluted name is probably abbreviated in some way... Pcap ping  22:07, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Very obvious spam, but more importantly, no signs of notability. Haakon (talk) 22:08, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete: I can't find significant coverage for this software. Joe Chill (talk) 00:56, 4 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete no indication of how this is notable. Lacks coverage in 3rd party sources RadioFan (talk) 01:09, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Not notable, it lacks coverage in multiple, reliable sources. Ekerazha (talk) 08:51, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Should have been speedily deleted as unambiguous advertising: The framework, with its gentle learning curve, can be used as a procedural code library by application developers with little or no object-oriented programming (OOP) knowledge, yet has the flexibility to accommodate the needs of those proficient in OOP concepts. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 15:33, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. PHP Architect is not a blog. It's a magazine. 112.201.166.93 (talk) 14:02, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * php|Architect is indeed a magazine and a WP:RS. The article currently cites an online news article from php|Architect; this seems like coverage any framework might get from them. They also mention "Since this framework is quite new there are almost no tutorials available yet." Can you find other sources for it at the moment? Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 15:56, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Exactly, I looked at that magazine and it seems like it does have editorial oversight, see here where it discusses what happens with submissions to the site. But Jodi is correct, it's ironic but the coverage actually suggests that this software isn't notable, by pointing out how new it is. In the future, if this software becomes popular and gets a lot of attention it might merit a more neutral article on Wikipedia with independent coverage, but it doesn't merit inclusion at this time. --  At am a  頭 17:01, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It's a shallow mention, not really a complete article. Moreover, it's only one source, we should have multiple sources, find another reliable source and I could change my opinion. Ekerazha (talk) 21:10, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Transwiki Based on my limited searching, this framework looks too new for coverage on a general encyclopedia (though I'm happy to change my mind if others find significant sources). Please transwiki it to or another php-specific wiki Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 15:56, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
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