Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PHSSL


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was no consensus to delete, retitle per WP:NAME appears in order. W.marsh 13:27, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

PHSSL
Delete NN Organization with around 1500 Google hits. Only claim to notability is being associated with the National Forensics League, and community consensus has many times in the past agreed that regional or local branches of a notable organization are not notable simply by association. No claim to notability, plus, much of article is simply a collection of lists pm_shef 23:59, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Also see Articles for deletion/Texas Forensic Association Articles for deletion/PHSSL Articles for deletion/Ohio High School Speech League Articles for deletion/California High School Speech Association Articles for deletion/Florida Forensic League, Inc. Articles for deletion/Wisconsin Forensics Coaches Association pm_shef 00:34, 16 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom; no independent sources. Melchoir 01:16, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. This reads too much of a brochure and record book and not enough of an encyclopedia article. —C.Fred (talk) 02:46, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Don't Delete I think it definitely does the job of an encylopedia article. It provides all the facts there is to know and, in my opinion is rather descriptive. --  Dominant   One   Talk  03:18, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment The issue isn't whether it "provides all the facts" the issue is whether it is notable enough to have an article. The article at present is simply a collection of lists - that is unencyclopedic. - pm_shef 03:38, 16 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep and rename with full name Yes, it is a stub, but state forensic leagues are not mere chapters. They have hundreds of events each year, thousands of participants and are the main way in which NFL members gain experience. It is like saying we should not have a New York Mets page, since we have one for Major League Baseball. In addition, state leagues sponsor different events than the NFL does. These would be lost if there were not state level pages. In addition, there is more to this page already than there is for most of the High School pages in Wikipedia. Sure, the page needs work, but a lot of our pages do. See also the discussions at Talk:National Forensic League, where active encouragement has been given to developing State league pages. --CTSWyneken 13:15, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per Cfred.--Auger Martel 17:44, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Vegaswikian 02:56, 20 June 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.