Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PNGOUT


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. I don't see a point to relisting this again, but I don't want to commit to a "keep" declaration. Seems worthwhile to continue discussing a possible merge, on the article's talk page. –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 01:20, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

PNGOUT

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This is a freeware software utility. This article was tagged with notability concerns in 2011, and in 2014, I redirected it to the author's page after I couldn't establish notability. Today, my redirection was reverted, but I still don't see any coverage in reliable sources for this software. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:35, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps we should merge this into Portable Network Graphics; that's what happened to OptiPNG. &mdash;SamB (talk) 20:08, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:06, 18 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Merge - to author Ken Silverman. Software article of unclear notability lacking significant coverage, and a search turned up no significant WP:RS coverage. Redirect to author/developer is common for non-notable software, and with the support of an afd finding, the change should be stable.Dialectric (talk) 12:54, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - pngcrush has an article. IrfanView uses PNGOUT. I see many results in Google and Google News searches. I recognize many of the websites. So I assume some of them are WP:RS. Here are some reliable sources:
 * Getting the Most Out of PNG. March 7, 2007. By Jeff Atwood of Coding Horror.
 * Adding PNGOUT to the Explorer Right Click Context Menu. April 11, 2007. By Scott Hanselman, an author at Wrox Press. --Timeshifter (talk) 22:00, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * These are both personal blogs, and their coverage of PNGOUT is howto and fairly brief. As such, they don't seem to meet the threshold of significant RS coverage.Dialectric (talk) 12:34, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The authors are well-known (in the world of computing), and one has a Wikipedia page. So the blog format is not relevant. As to PNGOUT's importance:
 * Ken Silverman: "PNGOUT optimizes the size of .PNG files losslessly. It uses the same deflate compressor I wrote for KZIP.EXE (see below). With the right options, it can often beat other programs by 5-10%." From: Ken Silverman's Utility Page.
 * Laurence Gellert: Compression utility pngout – a free lunch, bytes are on the menu. June 17, 2013. "Pngout compresses PNG files really really well (10-30% savings is typical). ... I use pngout as part of every release that adds or updates png graphics. Pngout squeezes down output from Photoshop, Paint.NET, or other graphics programs. After using this tool for several years I can say it has never corrupted a file or given me problems." --Timeshifter (talk) 20:03, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 00:44, 24 July 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash;&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·E·C) 02:37, 31 July 2015 (UTC)


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