Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PRSA Foundation


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Public Relations Society of America. Although I participated in the debate, I am closing this early given the consensus reached (and the withdrawn deletion nomination). (non-admin closure) Randykitty (talk) 13:39, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

PRSA Foundation

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Despite having 28 citations, they are all primary sources, blurbs, brief mentions, blogs, etc. that create the appearance of a well-sourced, notable organization that isn't really. I don't agree with user:DGG moving this to a merge discussion, because I would only add maybe 1 sentence mentioning this org on the PRSA page and I wouldn't take anything from this article in doing so. CorporateM (Talk) 14:43, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Public Relations Society of America (and, if justified, perhaps add a line there about this foundation). --Randykitty (talk) 15:21, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:20, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
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 * Redirect I had earlier suggested a merge, but depending on how much is merged, it can come pretty much to the same thing., are you suggesting a delete and merge, to remove the history? That is something different, and I'm OK with that also.  DGG ( talk ) 02:37, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ I have added a line about its foundation date on Public Relations Society of America. That article feels a bit too negative still and could use the philanthropic material. I also noticed that here Jack O'Dwyer offers some explanations about how the PRSA and its Foundation inter-operate. "The Society collects revenues for the PRSA Foundation with which it has "interrelated directors" and with which it shares "common facilities."" These kinds of philanthropy organizations are often "independently operated", but only kinda sorta. I was not confident enough in understanding what Jack O'Dwyer was saying to interpret it for Wikipedia, but it would be worthwhile to add to the Organization section of the PRSA article the corporate structure and relationship between the PRSA, the PRSSA, the PR journal and the PR Foundation. CorporateM (Talk) 05:15, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
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 * @CorporateM:
 * @DGG:

The PRSA Foundation is an independent, 501c3 charitable organization, with historical, but no direct ties to PRSA.

The allegations from Mr. O'Dwyer that it receives financial support from PRSA are false. He should not be a trusted source of information. His decades-long feud with PRSA is well documented. In fact, this is one of the many reasons why it is important for the foundation to remain separate from PRSA and critical to assert its independence.

The Foundation has one full-time employee and an independent board which includes many leaders in the public relations profession -- CEOs of major firms and Chief Communications officers of leading companies.

Even though they share a name and a historical connection, the Foundation is not associated with the PRSA, and should have its own separate page.

The PRSA Foundation is promoting diversity in PR and marketing communications fields. This is a crucial organization for the field of communication in the U.S., especially for ethnic and racial minorities trying to get their career path in this field. I think they deserve a wider presence in the web, including in Wikipedia, to help students know about them and take advantage of the valuable support they provide.

If you need to verify any information regarding the PRSA Foundation you can visit its own website or directly contact them. You can also read articles relating them from well-known and respected media outlets such as PR Week.

Thank you for your understanding.

--Theedititor2014 (talk) 02:12, 10 March 2014 (UTC)