Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PS 197


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The result was redirect to List of public elementary schools in New York City.  Sandstein  14:04, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

PS 197

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A non-notable elementary school that only appears in directories or routine mentions. Per WP:NSCHOOL, this school would need to pass either WP:ORG or the GNG. I believe it passes neither. Kbabej (talk) 21:07, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Kbabej (talk) 21:09, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
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 * Redirect to List of public elementary schools in New York City. We usualy do not have articles on an elementary school, but redirect to district articles. However, NYC apparently does not have school district articles. Additionally, there are 4 P.S. 197 elementary schools (PS 197 The Kings Highway Academy, P.S. 197 John B. Russwurm - District 5, P.S. 197 The Ocean School - District 27, and P.S. 197 Global Visions - District 12) so a redirect to the list seems appropriate. I was able to verify Charles Schmer's and Bernie Sanders' alum status, but RBG attended P.S. 238. Regardless, their notability does not create automatic notability for this article. Cheers! — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 21:06, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: For anyone interested in attempting WP:HEY, I clipped the below list of newspaper articles. Cheers! — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 22:39, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * National Council for Education Statistics: PS 197 Kings Highway Academy
 * Sixteen groups pledge support to joint council
 * P.S. 36 may get prefab
 * Local school wins "Freedom" citation
 * Our community leads in finest education
 * P.S.197, Two students, win Freedoms awards
 * Kings H'g'y plans own Lindy tribute
 * Parents will aid in P.S. 197 opening

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - several very notable alumni, with plenty of coverage. Bearian (talk) 03:09, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sulfurboy (talk) 22:15, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Thebiv19 (talk) 15:17, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Comment: I removed the erroneous statement that Ruth Bader Ginsberg is an alum, and added citations for Schumer, Sanders, and Coleman. None of the articles I listed above provide substantial coveage of the school, in my opinion, although the Freedom Award may represent a significant accomplishment of the school and its curriculum. I'm just not seeing enough substance in the rest of the writings, which mention the school in passing. Cheers! — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 19:42, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect per . The sources provided (Thank you!) still do not provide sufficient depth for WP:SIGCOV. Daask (talk) 22:39, 30 April 2020 (UTC)


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