Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/P Jainulabdeen (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Consensus is to delete - AGAIN. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 09:44, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

P Jainulabdeen
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I am taking this straight to AfD because it's a long essay but I don't feel I'm qualified to make an informed call as to whether or not this person meets WP:GNG at least. It seems to me that he does not, but it's tricky because of lack of english sources. Also, we would benefit from editors who are familiar if not with the person, with the topic at least. § FreeRangeFrog 20:10, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment I had not noticed this bio was AfDed a month ago, so it's currently marked as WP:CSD. If it is deleted then I'll do a non-admin close here; otherwise the discussion can happen normally. § FreeRangeFrog 20:16, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment - the current version is significantly larger than the version that was deleted, and has new (rubbish) references. I've declined the speedy but will watch this AfD and close it when it's done. Basa lisk  inspect damage⁄berate 21:39, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete -- no new evidence of significance since last AfD. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 19:32, 1 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete Whoever wrote the article seemed to believe that adding sources by the subject was a good thing, but just the opposite, sources by P Jainulabdeen actually make the article worse. See WP:PRIMARY. I did find two reliable secondary sources about the subject but it's not in-depth coverage to meet WP:GNG. These sources strongly suggest notability exists, but even if we were to take WP:TNT to the article, there's nothing we can say about the subject other than he is founder of The Tamil Nadu Thowheed Jamath (TNTJ). If other reliable secondary sources can be found that discuss the subject in-depth, I would consider changing my vote. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 18:30, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. This version is no improvement on deleted version. Xxanthippe (talk) 21:49, 3 December 2012 (UTC).
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