Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paano Kita Mapasasalamatan? (Philippine TV program)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. APpears to pass WP:TVSHOW. Please improve using the found sources. Thanks everyone for participating and assuming good faith. Missvain (talk) 18:13, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Paano Kita Mapasasalamatan? (Philippine TV program)

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No WP:RS, even author admitted on another AFD that he can't find one. Howard the Duck (talk) 13:14, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 13:20, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 13:20, 22 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete These articles all need to go. Unsourced. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 15:03, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. There are more of these on Wikipedia, just keep searching... — hueman1 ( talk •  contributions ) 15:21, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep: This is also tackled about at Iba 'Yan! AFD, I added a reliable source for this there. SeanJ 2007 (talk) 08:14, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * As demonstrated on that AFD, all sources added there are far from ever being reliable. Howard the Duck (talk) 13:23, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Please see the reliable sourced at the Iba 'Yan! AFD, there is also a nominated reliable source for Paano Kita Mapasasalamatan? (Philippine TV program) since this and Iba 'Yan! has the same issue. SeanJ 2007 (talk) 14:59, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Is there anything that you cannot understand with "As demonstrated on that AFD, all sources added there are far from ever being reliable."? Calling it a "reliable source" does not make it a reliable source. Howard the Duck (talk) 15:10, 23 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete: On the basis of this article not having any reliable sources (as the other posts mentioned), and because it has no significant coverage. Other than ABS-CBN, I found a couple of  (very likely unreliable) sources that only mention the show in passing. Even if these sources were reliable, the article would still fail WP:GNG as almost all coverage of this is from the network publishing it. HoneycrispApples (talk) 01:33, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - No notability, lack of reliable sources and completely fails WP:TVSHOW and WP:GNG. CruzRamiss2002 (talk) 06:02, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep: The sources in the article (except YouTube) are reliable, including the ones indicated above. I also found some reliable sources which talk about the show:, , , and . It's also mentioned here as well. Search results also return coverage of certain episodes. Even if these sources are from local media, they're definitely reliable. That said, the article is good enough to pass WP:TVSHOW.  ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 02:50, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * These 'sources' are a blurb by the station on its own channel and promos for the program by its presenter. They are not coverage in independent, reliable sources. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 06:01, 25 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep: Upon research, the subject of the article has been covered by news outlets other than the station. If the creator or other editors are given the chance, these outlets could be cited within the article so as to make it comply with the criteria of having an independent reliable source. Gardo Versace (talk) 08:32, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I agreed on 's decision, because this program might do something with a reliable source on it. SeanJ 2007 (talk) 01:15, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

_ JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 17:40, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep: This deletionist attitude on notable TV programmes should be tamed (perhaps deletionism may fare well for unsourced/promotional articles of some Philippine schools, or for unsourced defunct programmes with no chance of coverage like ABS-CBN News Advisory). A search on Google with keywords "Paano Kita Mapasasalamatan " yields more sources that may support this article, arranged in order of strength of the sources:
 * https://manilastandard.net/mobile/article/340144
 * https://www.pep.ph/guide/tv/151975/judy-ann-santos-new-show-a724-20200611-lfrm
 * http://pageone.ph/juday-honors-female-soldier-3-selfless-moms-in-paano-kita-mapasasalamatan/
 * https://entertainment.inquirer.net/378081/ang-probinsyano-other-abs-cbn-programs-to-return-as-new-channel-set-to-emerge
 * https://www.pep.ph/pepalerts/pep-troika/judy-ann-santos-tears-shows-closing-a4118-20200719
 * The only WP:RS among these is this PEP source. This Inquirer source discusses the show trivially, and focuses on the new channel. The rest are unsigned praise releases. If you guys are okay with a single WP:GNG source, that's quite pitiful. Howard the Duck (talk) 17:49, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * If this deletionism on TV programs will persist, then someone bold enough should nuke News Patrol as well. It is unsourced, much more problematic than this article. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 15:21, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Also care to nominate Patrol ng Pilipino for deletion? It only contains a single PEP.ph citation, and has a self-published reference (from ABS-CBN News). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 15:30, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Enforcing WP:GNG and WP:RS is not "deletionism". Philippine entertainment articles have been crap for the longest time by not following basic referencing requirements. Philippine sports programs are much better referenced and written than these, and no one's pushing for their deletion. Howard the Duck (talk) 15:34, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * If that is a reliable source, then let's add it at the article. SeanJ 2007 (talk) 08:04, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * This statement confirms my suspicion you really haven't read and understood WP:RS. Also, a single WP:RS isn't good enough as per WP:GNG. Howard the Duck (talk) 13:59, 30 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep - first vote withdrawn with almost slightly passes WP:TVSHOW and WP:GNG, but be mindful of these sources as they're some articles were just "copied" contents from the original one while doing upon research. CruzRamiss2002 (talk) 09:30, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets WP:TVSHOW with sources presented above. They're reliable enough IMV. SBKSPP (talk) 01:55, 1 May 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.