Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pacific Telecommunications Council


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy delete as copyvio. I fully acknowledge that this organisation is notable but all the substantive content is a copyright violation from the two sources specified. Simply, we cannot tolerate copyright violations and there is no clean version to revert to. There is no problem in creating a new page without the copyright issues. TerriersFan (talk) 18:42, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Pacific Telecommunications Council

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Moving from db-spam speedy deletion queue to AfD. db-inc not appropriate since it's not exactly a business or corporation (or person or website). Tone is a little brochure-like, but not terrible, and creator has offered to make it more neutral. $2.8M budget, founded in 1980. Needs sources. - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 14:52, 11 March 2009 (UTC) 
 * Keep, weakly, if promised edits are made. Google news archives yield a number of independent sources amid routine press releases about hirings, layoffs, and speakers at conferences.  - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 15:19, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Even more telling than the Google News results are the 491 Google Books and 563 Google Scholar hits that demonstrate how much this organisation's proceedings are considered important in its field. And I don't qualify my "keep" with "if promised edits are made". Notability is clear, so there is no deadline as to when the article should be improved, and, as we are all volunteers, the onus is on those who want changes in the article to make them. Phil Bridger (talk) 01:14, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 00:03, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete as copyvio. The first half of the article is copied from here and the second half from here. Smile a While (talk) 04:16, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - It needs work, but might only take 10 or 15 minutes to rewrite to be more coherent and remove any "copyright violation" issues. Proxy User (talk) 05:20, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.