Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paddy Prendeville


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The result was   redirect to The Phoenix (magazine). (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 22:04, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Paddy Prendeville

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He's the editor of a small magazine with less than a 20,000 circulation.

It may well be that this alone makes him not notable, and certainly not worthy of biography. However, in addition, the sources give us no more to say than "he has been the editor for25 years" and we have already that information in the article on the magazine. So we should either delete this, or redirect. However my attempts to prod and to redirect have been undone. Scott Mac (Doc) 00:48, 9 April 2009 (UTC) 
 * Keep - I contested the prod. The Phoenix (magazine) is a quite well-known political satire magazine in Ireland, and it is intimately connected with Paddy Prendeville who has been its editor almost since the beginning. There is not much to write about Paddy Prendeville, I give you that. I just think that showing "Paddy Prendeville is the editor of the Irish satirical Phoenix magazine" to readers is much more useful and clear that simply redirecting to The Phoenix (magazine). A paper encyclopedia would more likely write
 * Paddy Prendeville (also Prenderville, Prendiville), editor of Irish satirical magazine →The Phoenix"
 * rather than
 * Paddy Prendeville, see →The Phoenix (magazine)
 * I do not understand the animosity towards short articles that Wikipedians often show. Not every article has to be long. --Apoc2400 (talk) 09:09, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * They don't have to be long, but an article does need to establish there is enough material to require a split-off. - Mgm|(talk) 09:17, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect there is no information that isn't already covered in the article on the magazine. Separate articles on people are only needed when there's more than a trivial bit of information already covered elsewhere. - Mgm|(talk) 09:17, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sir, Your august organ purports to be an article on one Paddy Prendeville, a.k.a. Paddy Prendiville. In looking for sources, I am outraged and disgusted to see that there is nothing documenting this person beyond the 1 sentence in your organ and perhaps 1 additional sentence stating that this person was Veronica Guerin's best friend.  As any clean, decent, honest, and hardworking taxpayer Wikipedian knows, a redirect does more than point readers in the direction of the right article, as a paper encyclopaedia's "see" does.  It actually takes them there, too.  Your organ is permanently incapable of any growth.  I request, therefore, that you cancel my subscription to it. Yours sincerely, Uncle G (talk) 10:29, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 04:48, 16 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Redirect There is not much to write about Paddy Prendeville, I give you that. That about sums it up. The fact he is the editor of the Phoenix is covered in the article on that magazine. Other than that, there is nothing in this article at all. Redirect to Phoenix, and if anything else comes up, well the article can be re-written. --Michael Johnson (talk) 06:12, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect per several above, seems the most straightforward and reasonable way to handle the topic. Tim Ross   (talk)  13:41, 16 April 2009 (UTC)


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