Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Padmakar Vishnu Vartak


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The result was delete. Bishonen &#124; tålk 21:41, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Padmakar Vishnu Vartak

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Sources don't establish his notabilty. All I could find was a very short obituary. Even his Hindi article has no useful sources. Doug Weller talk 17:45, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete: Non-notable BLP. Aasim 17:51, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 17:52, 21 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep WP:AUTHOR, and WP:ANYBIO. I translated his obituary: Ancient Indian science was the subject of Dr. Vartak's study. Vartak had fixed the date of ancient Indian texts according to the position of the celestial planets. He also fixed the date of all the events in Mahabharata and Ramayana. ...He has established the Vedic Science Board. He has written 17 books on the same subject in Marathi, 3 in Hindi and 4 in English. All his Marathi books have been translated into English. Books Here Wm335td (talk) 18:15, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * exactly how does he meet either WP:AUTHOR or WP:ANYBIO? You don't seem to have given any evidence for this. Doug Weller  talk
 * Perhaps that this could be taken as a claim of significance, but I also see no evidence there for notability, a long list of self-published works does not change that (I have written thousands of software programs and participated in many code repositories as a maintainer; it's my work and it doesn't make me notable, for instance). — Paleo  Neonate  – 05:35, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete The obituary notwithstanding, the books appear to have been published by his own publishing house (making them self published). Non-notable author of non-notable books.--RegentsPark (comment) 00:58, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Just sayin. The translations are also published by his own house so I wouldn't put much weight on that. The obit (translated using google translate) appears to be a fluff piece and I wouldn't use that for establishing notability. Unless reliable independent sources are forthcoming, this should be deleted.--RegentsPark (comment) 20:55, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Here are just a few links that show various other publication houses that have published his books. Bookwell, Delhi Bhartiya Kal Prakashan, Blue Bird prakashan are just a few of them.
 * Kindly do your due diligence and fact checking before posting false statements like above. Admins of this site should take note of such behavior. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gauri a11 (talk • contribs) 21:24, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * personal attacks don't make your arguments convincing, especially when you seem to have avoided asking my question below asking for information about the publishing houses. I did do my due diligence and searched for their websites and couldn't find the. I hope you can provide them for us. And as for Admins, RegentsPark is a well respected Administrator here.
 * Doug Weller talk 17:37, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Not a personal attack but simply stating facts. As for the websites of other publication houses, you asked me that question on the Rigveda talk page yesterday and I responded to it there yesterday itself. Here they are again.
 * http://www.bookwellpublications.com
 * http://www.bkpbooks.com
 * https://www.bookganga.com/eBooks/Books/Index?PID=5063737727570943757
 * ga11 (talk) 17:56, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * And I can't find anything on their websites about whether they self-publish or are standard publishers. Doug Weller  talk 17:54, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * The lack of NPOV at this point is so staggering that this comment above is not even worth answering.ga11 (talk) 21:05, 26 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep Just because an author happens to run a publishing house does not automatically make him non-notable and neither does this automatically make his books non-notable. In any case, his books have been translated into several other languages published by different publishing houses so this argument doesn't hold any weight anyway. His credentials have been succinctly summarized above by Wm335td — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gauri a11 (talk • contribs) 02:57, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * This Admin is struggling to even find the websites of these publishing houses, let alone evidence they are reliable. Doug Weller  talk 15:14, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Not true. You asked me the question on the Rigveda talk page yesterday and I responded to it there yesterday itself. Anyone can go there and verify this. Here they are again. A Google search of two minutes produced them for me.
 * http://www.bookwellpublications.com
 * http://www.bkpbooks.com
 * https://www.bookganga.com/eBooks/Books/Index?PID=5063737727570943757
 * ga11 (talk) 17:56, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Can you give me examples of books by other authors that his publishing house has published? -- Toddy1 (talk) 03:52, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * ख्रिस्त परिचय अर्थात ख्रिस्ताचे हिंदुत्व (लेखक - गणेश दामोदर सावरकर) (Marathi)(Paperback) is one listed on his Marathi Wiki page which I had translated into English wiki page. I am sure there are others but I don't know them. Some other Marathi or Hindi language editors might know. ga11 (talk) 04:52, 23 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. The obituary states fringe positions (such as that the dates of mythological events have been precisely determined) in its own voice, and as such clearly isn't a reliable source. I do not see any other evidence of notability. Vanamonde (Talk) 20:34, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom fails WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 23:34, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, self published author who hasn't received independent coverage from reliable sources. Tayi Arajakate  Talk 03:32, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - Wikipedia articles should be written using independent sources. — Paleo  Neonate  – 05:35, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 08:17, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Move to draft or delete. A search on Google Books suggests that there are at least passing references to him or his work in reliable third-party sources (there are probably quite a lot of false positives).  If someone took the trouble to read those sources (not just the snippets available on Google Books), they might be able to create a decent article on him. Anyone trying to write an article on Vartak needs to be willing to write from a neutral point of view, which must inevitably mean writing harsh things about Vartak's work. -- Toddy1 (talk) 15:35, 24 August 2020 (UTC)


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