Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pagan Federation


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The result was   keep. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 00:45, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Pagan Federation

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Organisation lacking coverage in independent reliable sources. Only part with any decent sourcing is the coatrack about a connected individual but that only has trivial coverage of Pagan Federation. I've found nothing better duffbeerforme (talk) 13:46, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep and improve. I'm not defending the article as it stands which I entirely agree is poorly written and not well sourced. But the PF is the UK's national representative body for a considerable religious minority, analogous to the Board of Deputies of British Jews which most people will have heard of, even if you haven't heard of the PF. Paganism in the UK has about 50,000 adherents according to the last census so although it's smaller than Judaism it's not a tiny, here-today-gone-tomorrow group. I am contacting the PF to ask if they have a news cuttings service and can give me some sources that meet WP:RS in order to improve the article. Kim Dent-Brown   (Talk)  14:09, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
 * "which most people will have heard of", really, I guess I don't fit into most people. Just like most people don't fit into. duffbeerforme (talk) 14:34, 12 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Notable, with several mentions in different sources. Google Books gives results including Introduction to Pagan Studies By Barbara Jane Davy, Witches, Witchcraft and Wicca By Rosemary Guiley, The New Generation Witches: Teenage Witchcraft in Contemporary Culture By Hannah E. Johnston, Peg Aloi, Religion and Youth By Sylvia Collins-Mayo, Pink Dandelion (Ashgate).  They're frequently quoted by news sources, as a Google News search will show, but there's also a few news stories with a bit of detail about the organisation. Since they date back to the 70s there's likely to be more that's not online Google Scholar has them mentioned in Graham Harvey, "The roots of pagan ecology", Religion Today, Volume 9, Issue 3, 1994. And thinktank Ekklesia has this.  An organisation that's been going for more than 40 years, and media coverage shows it's widely respected as the leading pagan organisation in the UK, but the sources I've given should provide material for a good article; I'll try and add some later. --Colapeninsula (talk) 16:56, 12 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 13:21, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Religion-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 13:21, 13 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep and improve. While the current form of the page is admittedly lacking, this is a very significant organization for pagans in the UK, has a decades-long history, and (as previous comments have pointed out) a basic search reveals numerous mentions in solid references.  ~Autumnal Monk~  talk 23:39, 13 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - but this article needs serious help and improvement. See above. Jrcrin001 (talk) 00:37, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Note - I had intended to try and improve the article this week before the 7-day AfD deadline came up but unfortunately I've had a bereavement and been unable to do so. If the article is kept I'll undertake to improve it following the helpful suggestions above. If it's deleted I will start from scratch and try to draft a more acceptable article from the ground up. Kim Dent-Brown   (Talk)  09:52, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
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