Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pagcor Tower (2nd nomination)


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The result was   keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:31, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Pagcor Tower
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There is no official information of PAGCOR, or any reliable party about this building. They do not have a particular plan for this building, f.e. which construction company will be involved, when construction will start, what the estimated time of completion will be. The building is not included in recent information of PAGCOR. PAGCOR Tower is nothing more than a short-lived proposal. The visions of this huge building appeared in magazines in 2008 and have been around since on forums. A short-lived proposal is not notable. This article was kept the first not because it's noteworthy, but because some ip's were frustrating the deletion process. Leo db (talk) 11:55, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 18:57, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
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 * Keep I dont see a real reason for deletion. -- WhiteWriter speaks 10:23, 10 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:52, 14 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep If all so called short lived proposals are not notable, then articles like Sky City 1000, X-Seed 4000, Nakheel Tower, Russia Tower and many of the articles linked to this template (Proposed Supertall Skyscrappers) (which are either visions or buildings which never got constructed/finished due to certain issues like finances) should have been deleted as well. PAGCOR Tower WAS supposed to be built until the Philippine Government (through PAGCOR) decided to scrap it as well as some other projects for the PAGCOR City megaproject. Rxlxm (talk) 12:46, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep This generated significant coverage in the Philippines, not only in the aforementioned magazines but in leading news channels long after 2008. See Reforms in PAGCOR from ABS-CBN news for an example. PAGCOR (Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation) itself is controversial, from accusations of corruption to the general atmosphere of distrust from Filipinos due to its apparent excesses and its purpose (it handles organized gambling, a controversial subject in a predominantly Catholic country). References to previous deletion process is also not quite an acceptable reason for proposing another deletion.--  Obsidi ♠ nSoul  12:58, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
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