Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Painting Techniques of Zhang Daqian


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Rjd0060 (talk) 07:31, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Painting Techniques of Zhang Daqian

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This is completely a work of original research. There is already an article on Chang Dai-chien. Any useful info here can be added to that article. As it stands, this is not really an article but a list of apparent techniques without context. I don't see how this could be rewritten -- and it would need to be completely rewritten -- into a useful article.  freshacconci  talk talk  03:59, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions.  freshacconci  talk talk  04:04, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Chang Dai-chien is an article of artist's biography, nevertheless Painting Techniques of Zhang Daqian is an article of artist's painting styles and related special research. They are two completely different subjects. There should be no reasons to combine them into one same matter of a less useful and less meaningful article. Besides this article is not an orphan at all, as lots of other articles including Chang Dai-chien link to it. Meantime the article of Chang Dai-chien wrote on a subject of Forgeries (only minimum percent) of Zhang Daqian exclusively and nothing else concerning his painting techniques and other maximum contributions. Therefore these are two articles with two apparently different points of view. It's better just to link them together, not to combine them together in a state of confusion. Orionandhsu (talk) 04:32, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge or Delete cannot really stand on its own, either delete or work into this -> imo it belongs there -> Chang Dai-chien ...Modernist (talk) 12:48, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Changed to delete as seen above...Modernist (talk) 16:15, 12 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete or Merge into Chang Dai-chien. I  Never  Cry  20:57, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge Delete into Chang Dai-chien if there's anything that can be saved. Delete if there isn't. Silver  seren C 07:07, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, and must not merge. Articles created/expanded by Orionandhsu/Orionwebmuseum/OrionHsu (all likely the same person) are highly suspicious and have been reported to the administrators here.  The only reference the article cites is a Chinese website which appears to be written by Orion Web Musuem, likely the same person as Orionandhsu.  It is original research, and given that the author does not know the difference between technique and subject matter or style, it cannot be regarded as scholarly and cannot stay anywhere in wikipedia. Hzh (talk) 08:28, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, per Hzh. User:Orionandhsu, who created the article, appears to be a sock puppet of User:Orionwebmuseum, who's been blocked for spamming.  -Zanhe (talk) 18:07, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete All info of value should be in the artists page Seasider91 (talk) 11:25, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. The Chang Dai-chien article can indeed serve to be expanded as User:Orionandhsu suggests, but within the constraints of standard wikipedia practice which I believe the Painting Techniques of Zhang Daqian entry is problematic. I recently added a brief, sourced, section in the Chang Dai-chien entry in an attempt to begin to expand the non-forgery section of his career. So, the intent of the editor is solid, but the practice is deficient. Hence, my recommendation to Delete. --Quartermaster (talk) 13:40, 17 July 2012 (UTC) (signature added one day later - sorry)
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