Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pająk pół kilo


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The result was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:50, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Pająk pół kilo

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The topic of the article is allegedly a Polish beast, but its name doesn't sound very Polish. In Polish language, numbers virtually never come after the noun they describe, so that any native speaker would rather say "Półkilogramowy pająk". All the legend sounds hopelessly impossible, improbable to originate either in old or in modern times. Two of three sources seem to be author-related (Alex Pietrow edits AtlasObscura and wrote the code of D&D adventure mentioned in the article). I found no mention about the spider in Polish sources about Skrzyńsko. Resumming, I strongly suspect hoax. Marcowy Człowiek (talk) 20:06, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Mythology-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:08, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:05, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Keep This is a story that exists in the Skrzyńsko area amongst the older population and like many myths and stories it is not documented very well, apart from the one book that I was pointed to. I realize that the story sounds fantastical and fairytale like, but like many other mythical creatures, that is often the point. As far as I know it is a cautionary tale told by the older generation to scare children into obedience, like so many other creatures. Yes, it is a local myth, but that does not make it 'untrue' to the extent of it being Polish folklore. (Many of the other creatures are local also.) Other then that I will not deny having a special interest in the myth. As I have roots in the region of its origin, and am one of the children that were brought up with it. (Willing to give proof of some sort if you want?) The name is how I heard it, I will agree with you that your version makes more sense, but that's not how they call it. Maybe it was purposefully changed to be more understandable for kids? Other then that you'll see in my profile that most of my additions to Wikipedia are on niche subjects, focussed on local history/legends. It does not always stick, but I mean well and try always adhere to Wikipedia rules. I'm open to editing the article into a form that agrees better with your opinion or make it part of some larger page, but I would request for it to stay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Synethos (talk • contribs) 15:02, 2 September 2019 (UTC) P.S. Should I add this to the other 2 shares of this request?
 * Delete I would love to keep this article, but, by Synethos's own admission the article is mostly original research and a single source. Maybe it could be moved to something like List of legendary creatures by type.  If a second source is found it could be moved to its own article.  For the record, I don't think either atlas obscura or DM's guild are reliable sources. Rockphed (talk) 19:00, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep There is also the book, that is a second source right? Plus I would argue that Atlas Obscura is well sourced and free of fake things at least, as their editors vet what gets published and not. DMsguild was a popular culture reference, so I would not count that as a source no. The list could work as an in between solution I guess. Synethos (talk) 07:40, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:OR and WP:RS.--Darwinek (talk) 23:53, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - only one source, Wielka Księga Demonów Polskich - the Atlas Obscura article cites no sources and is likely based on Wielka Księga Demonów Polskich - a minor and non-notable story - and fairly recent as the "Central Measures of Poland" website says the metric system was adopted in Poland in 1919, after WWI - the Atlas Obscura article says the body of the spider was lost during WWI, so it must have been renamed with kilo - the whole thing is rather sketchy - Epinoia (talk) 17:37, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


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