Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pak-Bangla language


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Given the socking and unrefuted hoax allegations I’m going to go with delete but if there are proper sources than a non sock user is free to find somewhere to write about this. Spartaz Humbug! 10:36, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Pak-Bangla language

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There is no such language called "Pak-Bangla language" (when searching, don't get confused with Pak-Bangla as in Pakistan-Bangladesh). A mention in a book doesn't make it a language. Most of sources cited in the article doesn't even mention it. There is no significant coverage. The article seems like WP:OR. At best we can move relevant part to Bengali language movement.

(I have a strong feeling that the article was created by a sock of User:Lazy-restless). আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 23:57, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * see here, google books english search and google books bengali search, at least it can be moved as Bangla writing in Arabic script, because it was a deliberately discussed topic in the field of bengali language movement and there is significant mention of the topic in reliable sources. See the recent edition, I have added some more references. And for your concern to know that, I am not any sockpuppet of anyone. Lavito principa (talk) 06:40, 1 May 2022 (UTC) sock
 * No, no such writing system exists. At best we can move relevant part to Bengali language movement (or below suggestion). আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 16:44, 1 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Language and Pakistan.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 07:55, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The article mentions "Arabic or Urdu letters" which suggests an XY problem. I suggest merging and rewriting as Bengali orthography covering all ways of writing the Bangla/Bangali language (also covering eg. Bengali alphabet, Romanisation of Bengali). For a language spoken by hundreds of millions of people its orthography is certain to be notable. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  07:31, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: As per first sentence, there is no such thing as "Pak-Bangla language". Articles confuses language and script, and is linking different events in history using original research. UserNumber (talk) 16:45, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Move and keep: as Bengali writing in Arabic script because this had a significant coverage and the title clarifies the topic. Lavito principa (talk) 19:35, 1 May 2022 (UTC) sock
 * No such writing system exists. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 21:22, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * For notability, existance at present is not compulsary, but reference and mention as notable according to wikipedia guideline and policy is needed, for example, dinosaur and dodo doesn't exist, but still why the article about dinousour still exist in wikipedia? Why the Ottoman Turkish article although it is not common now? Not a rational logic. The respective system was a project in 1947 after period and in the nawabi era of Bengal, this writing system obviously existed for the whole period without any single doubt and also a specimen is avalaible for visitors in Bangladesh national museum (see this video: 29:54-29:56, this two Puthi inscriptions mentioned here is of 16th and 7th century bengal) and according to that, that 72 puthis had been found written in bengali with arabic script including Alaol's Padmavati and Shah Muhammad Sagir's Yusuf-Zulekha. As a project of pakistan it was a talk of the town in east pakistan's politics of that time taken by Fazlur Rahman (politician), the father of Salman F Rahman, and along with urdu and arabic proposed as lingua franca, this proposal was also strongly opposed by Dhirendranath Datta then, the references are deliberately found in online and offline academic and news sources, you can search the whole discussions in then pakistan assembly papers of 1947-1954 and you will find long discussion in pakistans assembly about this project. Lavito principa (talk) 19:07, 2 May 2022 (UTC) sock
 * Merge and rewrite: I support Buidhe. I think we can merging and rewriting as Bengali orthography covering all ways of writing the Bangla/Bangali language. Mehedi Abedin 08:10, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge and rewrite: Per nomination and according to the above discussion. ≈ MS Sakib  «TalK»  09:31, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Lavito principa is an confirmed sock puppets of User:Lazy-restless —MdsShakil (talk) 19:45, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep, change the name to "Islamization of Bengali language" and rewrite it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.253.46.108 (talk) 04:31, 4 May 2022 (UTC)  suspected sock
 * Delete or merge/rewrite I looked in all of the reference titles, and also at the target of about 10 of the cites and didn't see even a mention of this language. North8000 (talk) 19:18, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete –  definitely a hoax. There's no such language as "Pak-Bangla language". And furthermore it's created by an IP address (103.67.157.5), possibly used by blocked sock Lavito principa. No real value in keeping this. Radioactive  (talk) 03:15, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. Radioactive  (talk) 03:18, 7 May 2022 (UTC)


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