Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pakistan Embassy International School and College Tehran


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The result was Draftify. Liz Read! Talk! 22:34, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Pakistan Embassy International School and College Tehran

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Declined prod. I could not find significant coverage in English or Urdu from gnews searches. Fails WP:NSCHOOL. Only primary sources supplied. LibStar (talk) 22:44, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education, Schools,  and Pakistan. Shellwood (talk) 23:08, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: The school began in 1964, and so a lot of relevant sources in Iran and/or Pakistan are likely not on the internet at this time. I asked Iranian and Pakistani editors to check libraries in their countries to see if articles are backed up. I think that, especially as we deal with school articles in the Global South, we need to give editors time to find relevant sources. Additionally, as Iran was affected by the Iranian Revolution, it's possible that access to pre-1979 articles may be affected. WhisperToMe (talk) 03:53, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
 * They have 7 days to find sources, let the AfD run its course. LibStar (talk) 03:55, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Considering bureaucracies in some countries (I am not sure how much time it takes to get permission to access some archives?), peoples' own working lives (especially consider people with full time jobs), and especially people far from major cities/major libraries (it may take time for them to book transportation to cities with relevant archives), I think one month is more appropriate of a time limit than seven days. WhisperToMe (talk) 03:57, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
 * We don't extend AfD durations because of those reasons. Everyone on WP has their own lives to lead, and I would doubt someone is going to go to a physical library to get something out of the archives and wait weeks just to rescue this article. LibStar (talk) 04:02, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I did, in fact, go to a physical library (Houston Public Library Jesse H. Jones building) to get Houston Post articles as sources for Wikipedia articles (Houston Post articles are not available on electronic databases due to legal decisions). Since such not-online sources are in fact admissible as sourcing, it's important IMO to give allowances to give people time to access them. While it's not mandatory to give people time to go to physical archives, I strongly recommend that such allowances are done so especially as the WMF wants to encourage more contribution of articles related to the Global South. The ease of access and convenience we expect in the Global North isn't everywhere. IMO there's no reason not to wait/to give grace when there are no BLP or copyvio concerns. WhisperToMe (talk) 04:06, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
 * If you want an AfD duration extension, please request it at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion. You remind me of an editor a few years back requesting no AfDs to occur because he was going on vacation. LibStar (talk) 04:08, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Requested here: Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion WhisperToMe (talk) 19:05, 23 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep Embassy schools being govt-owned and run are notable and given this is significantly old it seems notable. It may take time to find sources but can stay this time. Muneebll (talk) 21:09, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
 * where is the notability criterion that says "Embassy schools being govt-owned and run are notable"? LibStar (talk) 07:34, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:ITSOLD is not a reason for keeping. LibStar (talk) 07:55, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:02, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Draftify, then editors will have 6 months to look for sources. Insight 3 (talk) 13:31, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment it's almost a week since this AfD started. Has anyone commenced the process to look for sources in archives/libraries and requires more time as WhisperToMe suggests? LibStar (talk) 09:55, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I'll check around and see who is looking for sources WhisperToMe (talk) 05:46, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Draftify. Fad Ariff (talk) 13:20, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * I agree with Draftify in this case WhisperToMe (talk) 23:58, 31 December 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.