Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paladin of Shadows


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to John Ringo. There's a clear consensus that the article in it's present form isn't substantial enough or presents notability enough as required by WP:NBOOKS to warrant it's own article, and redirecting to Ghost (John Ringo novel) is potentially troublesome as it is also nominated for deletion, so redirecting here is the logical outcome. (non-admin closure) Steven Zhang  The clock is ticking....  00:18, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Paladin of Shadows

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Not even remotely notable The Last Angry Man (talk) 15:58, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep I'm not claiming these books are good, at least from the review I read, but they are certainly notable. See Notability_(books) for criteria.  A worldcat search shows copies in 600+ libraries, and google returns 100k+ hits for the phrase "paladin of shadows", the first several pages being exclusively about these books.  A series by a well known science fiction author is certainly worthy of inclusion.  Skip237 (talk) 20:28, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Could you please be a bit more specific, by telling us where that review is and listing a few of those Google search hits that provide significant coverage in independent reliable sources, or otherwise demonstrate that this passes any of the points of WP:NBOOK. Phil Bridger (talk) 08:50, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * This review is how I know these books[], it became a minor internet meme. Also, from the history it looks like this article once had some substance before most of it was deleted.Skip237 (talk) 23:57, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You do realize that is a blog right? Not a reliable source at all. The Last Angry Man (talk) 00:40, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions.  — frankie (talk) 14:19, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions.  — frankie (talk) 14:19, 21 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Redirect to John Ringo, which already covers the topic more completely. No prejudice against a sourced recreation with appropriate content, but what exists is a cover blurb with a bit of OR tacked on. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 17:09, 23 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Redirect seems most appropriate, to either John Ringo or Ghost (John Ringo novel). htom (talk) 23:19, 23 October 2011 (UTC)


 * NOTE: Ghost (John Ringo novel) is also nominated for deletion. htom (talk) 22:59, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.