Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Palestinian Israelitism


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:44, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Palestinian Israelitism

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This article, which purports to give a name to a specific current of Palestinian nationalism, is about a specific claim of ethnogenesis for Palestinians, and provides citations to primary source genetic studies and a mixture of primary and secondary sources for linguistic arguments that to varying degrees support the claims of this tendency. However, none of the sources provided actually mention "Palestinian Israelitism", "Palestinian Israelism", or "Native Israelis", nor do they make reference to any specific political movement that is promoting this theory, thus making this article WP:SYNTH at best. I wasn't able to find any mention of these terms in RS online, and an internet search for the Arabic term provided in the lead also returned no results. Thus, while some of this information could be incorporated into Palestinians, Palestinian nationalism or other existing articles that discuss Palestinian identity, I don't see any evidence that there should be a standalone article titled "Palestinian Israelitism". signed,Rosguill talk 21:50, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Additional note: as it turns out, the section on genetic studies appears to be a copyright violation of a comment on this blog. I'm unaware of any actual policy on what to do in this situation, but in order to make it easier to evaluate the article, and to avoid accusations of sabotaging the article to make a stronger deletion case, I am going to avoid acting on this until after the AfD runs its course. signed,Rosguill talk 22:00, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 23:09, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 23:09, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Palestine-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 23:09, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Snow Delete Good Lord, this could be a poster article for WP:OR, Huldra (talk) 23:33, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Besides its verifiability problems, the article was created by an editor who doesn't satisfy the requirements of WP:ARBPIA3. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:33, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - the theory is notable (though not under this name - AFAICT. This is a movement that seeks to convert Palestinians (per the movement - back) to Judiasm) - e.g. see . The current page may merit TNT. Icewhiz (talk) 11:37, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * The book you cited in your first link is self-published and therefore not a reliable source. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 12:56, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * That book is by one of the main proponents (and the third link is the movement) - I didn't not say this was a reliable source nor an indication of notability. The second link is to an INDEPTH piece by Haaretz on this (and one can find a few more). Icewhiz (talk) 13:32, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. While an article could be constructed on the topic, the current article is filled with WP:OR, is not based on reliable sources, and is essentially an essay. Icewhiz (talk) 17:26, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:OR essay --Shrike (talk) 16:42, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails at WP:OP, and of the few sources actually cited, at least the one from Haaretz is turning a speculative statement by someone with no connection to the movement into hard fact. Playlet (talk) 10:16, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete I cannot find any sources on this page that are not either non-WP:RS, WP:SYN violations or just WP:OR.--Calthinus (talk) 02:08, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete Seems to be a lot of OR on first exam. Don't have much time to dig into this, though.Bahb the Illuminated (talk) 02:10, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sheldybett (talk) 06:22, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.