Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Palpatine's chancellorship (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete --Anthony.bradbury"talk"  08:35, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Palpatine's chancellorship
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Hopeless cruft, which occassionally reads like an eassy and is full of origincal research and unverfied claims. Without out-of-universe commentary, only serves to reiterate plot. David Fuchs ( talk ) 21:54, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete and Merge with Palpatine, per nom. Redundant; and I don't think it can be saved from the original research.  =David ( talk )( contribs ) 22:35, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I believe, actually, the problem began when the info was split from Palpatine during FAC. Putting it back in might not be a very salient option. David Fuchs ( talk  ) 22:50, 17 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete It's completely OR. i said 00:04, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete I'm suprised anyone could care so much about a fictional character. --RucasHost 01:41, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete No sources beyond plot of the films, fails WP:FICT. Jay32183 02:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge, because concerns notable character from incredibly notable media. Plus, nominating the article as "cruft" violates WP:HARMLESS.  And I'm surprised Jay would say no "sources beyond plot of the films" when Palpatine's chancellorship would also appear in the video games and comics of the Expanded Universe.  Finally, the nomination seems incomplete as this page should also link to the earlier discussion.  Sincerely, --  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 15:20, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Video game and comic book sources are still not real world sources as required by WP:FICT. While you're linking to WP:ATA, you may want to read WP:NOTINHERITED. Jay32183 18:29, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Per the note on WP:FICT about an example in which "The information was already available on Wookiepedia", if the same could be said here, then I see no problem with linking from the Palpatine article to the Wookiepedia article (IF one exists) on Palpatine's chancellorship. Sincerely, --  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 22:47, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Then you're saying transwiki or delete, not keep. Jay32183 22:53, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * No, I'm saying keep if there is not a Wookiepedia aticle, redirect without deleting if there is. Sincerely, --  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 22:59, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as original research as well a violations of WP:FICT. -- Whpq 16:38, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Mukadderat 19:08, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep and improve Article could easily be improved to address in universe style and OR concerns, Articles that can be so easily fixed should not be deleted. It is obvious the topic is notable. Listing it as "cruft" is essentially saying "I hate it it should go" and there for is not a valid argument. The author of this AFD should have talked to the articles main contribs to solve the problem rather than delete it without trying to fix anything. Viperix 21:52, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Can you tell me which reliable, verifiable and 3rd-party sources can be found commenting on Palpatine's chancellorship? I'd be happy to withdraw the nom if these were found, however I found no such results before AfD-ing the article. David Fuchs ( talk  ) 22:51, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I can try, I am not good at finding sources, but I am sure that someone who was could find at least a couple. http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/palpatine/ OR http://imdb.com/title/tt0121766/plotsummary OR http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Chancellor+Palpatine+V+Jedi+council OR http://movies.about.com/od/starwars3/a/starwars101205_2.htm Viperix 20:33, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Urban dictionary and IMDB are not reliable sources for this kind of thing. In addition, while the about.com article certainly has good information, I see no part that is commentary on Palpatine's chancellorship in particular; its all about Palpatine's character in general. David Fuchs ( talk  ) 21:02, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment: I am not sure, but I am going to say Delete as per all of the above. This article violates No Original Research. Greg Jones II 21:11, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.