Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pamela Rogers Turner

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was DELETE. dbenbenn | talk 19:20, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Pamela Rogers Turner
''Pamela Rogers Turner (born 1977) is a teacher from Tennessee who was arrested, on 2005-02-08 and charged with fifteen counts of of sexual battery by an authoritive figure and thirteen counts of statutory rape. Rogers Turner had allegedly been having sex with a thirteen year old student.... At this point, just allegedly'' so; and, I hope, presumed innocent until proven guilty. "Wikipedia should not offer news reports on breaking stories.... Wikipedia does have many encyclopedia articles on topics of historical significance that are currently in the news" (says What_Wikipedia_is_not); even if these allegations were to be proven in court, statutory rape committed by somebody otherwise unknown would not be a topic of historical significance. Tabloid-fodder, yes; encyclopedic, no. -- Hoary 02:22, 2005 Feb 12 (UTC)
 * Delete. The local "Eyewitness News" (etc) shows think this sort of thing is notable, and will report something like this even if it occured in the next state.  If nothing sensational happened locally, make that several states over.  That doesn't make it notable, even if the woman is found guilty.  Wikipedia isn't a local news archive.  --BM 04:20, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. This story is making international headlines. It isn't a local story anymore and therefore it is notable. Wikipedia has an article on Debra Lafave and her case hasn't even gone to full trial yet. However the wording of the article needs to be closely scrutinized to maintain NPOV and the "innocent until proven guilty" aspect, just as the Lafave article, I assume, maintains. 23skidoo 08:50, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Question: "International headlines"? Which non-US, non-junk news sources are retailing this slimy little non-story? I may have missed something, but the Guardian, the BBC, and le Monde don't seem to mention it. -- Hoary 09:02, 2005 Feb 12 (UTC)


 * It may make international headlines, but I haven't heard of the case. Transwiki to Wikinews. Mgm|(talk) 14:29, Feb 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Jeez, tabloid stuff - or do what Mgm said. I don't know what is appropriate for Wikinews so I'm willing to rely on his judgement about this article going there.  hydnjo talk 00:19, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Transwiki to WikiNews. Even if it is making international news, it's still a news story.  Delete from Wikipedia.  Rossami (talk) 03:12, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete or transwiki if Wikinews will accept it, but remove it from Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a news source, and people will not remember this a couple of years from now. Let's have articles only for notable crime cases. (And by the way I live in Brazil, and this only got very minor coverage here.) JoaoRicardo 07:05, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. This isn't a breaking news database. If and when she is convicted, then reconsider for an article. Maybe. Katefan0 15:17, Feb 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - it's not encyclopedia fodder yet - David Gerard 10:54, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Just heard about the story on Fox News and came here to find some info about it. Cjc244 talk 12:55, 15 Feb 2005 (EST)
 * Delete. It's been all over cable news here in the U.S., but so have squirrels that jump over swimming pools.  Unless the case ends up being remarkable in some way, this isn't encyclopedia-worthy. – Beginning 02:32, Feb 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, with reservations. Article needs expansion. Megan1967 05:18, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a newspaper.  RickK 05:28, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)

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