Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Panagiotis Kourdakis


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep Kourdakis and Apostolopoulos, delete Moisiadis. There is no disagreement about deleting Moisiadis. There does seem to be consensus that playing in the Football League 2 would satisfy WP:NFOOTBALL, and Jogurney's demonstrate that. Rlendog (talk) 02:33, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Panagiotis Kourdakis

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Contested PROD. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Argyle 4 Life talk  14:03, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I am also nominating the following related pages because they fail the criteria stated above. Argyle 4 Life  talk  14:09, 14 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Argyle 4 Life  talk  14:09, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete all - fail WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 14:22, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete all - all three clearly fail WP:GNG. Kourdakis and Moisiadis both clearly fail WP:NSPORT as they have never played in a fully pro league. If the content of the Alexis Apostolopoulos is accurate, then he has played in a fully pro league (Gamma Ethniki) and would meet WP:NSPORT. However, I cannot verify that this is the case. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:30, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 16:43, 14 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep Alexis Apostolopoulos. I think that he meets WP:NFOOTBALL because he has made a number of international appearances in the Greek National Team for the Under-21 and Under-19 squads. Those are not junior squads. In any case, he easily meets the general notability standards in WP:NSPORT.  Nipson anomhmata   (Talk) 19:33, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * WP:NFOOTBALL clearly states that what a player achieves at youth level doesn't make them notable. If he has played in Gamma Ethniki then provide some reliable references to back it up. If it can't be verified then it shouldn't be on Wikipedia. Argyle 4 Life  talk  04:08, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 21 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Lazaros Moisiadis: Lazaros clearly fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL, as he never played for a senior club. However, both Panagiotis Kourdakis and Alexis Apostolopoulos have signed for Football League 2 clubs, something easily verifiable, which covers WP:NSPORT. Unfortunately, there is a lack of reliable statistics around Football League 2, so it will be kind of hard to verify whether they actually played or not, and i'm not sure at all about the appearances and goals mentioned in their articles. Kosm1fent Won't you talk to me? 20:05, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It's easy to verify that Kourdakis (ΚΟΥΡΔΑΚΗΣ, ΠΑΝΑΓΙΩΤΗΣ) played in Football League 2 (http://www.epae.org/match.fds?categ=3&dior_code=117&cal_day=34&game=1&group=2&type=1&pagecode=01.03&langid=1). Jogurney (talk) 03:35, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * And equally easy to verify that Apostolopoulos (ΑΠΟΣΤΟΛΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ, ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ) played in Football League 2 (http://www.epae.org/match.fds?categ=3&dior_code=117&cal_day=1&game=7&group=2&type=1&pagecode=01.03&langid=1). Jogurney (talk) 03:39, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak keep for Kourdakis and Apostolopoulos since the articles satisfy NSPORTS. Delete Moisiadis since the article fails GNG and NSPORTS.  I'm not sure the first two articles will pass GNG, but given the amount of Greek-language coverage of even the third level of Greek football, I suspect they can be brought up to that level. Jogurney (talk) 03:42, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment It may have been a bad idea to roll these AFDs together, as the comments above suggest. A no consensus close with an invitation to AFD the articles separately may be necessary. causa sui (talk) 01:45, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.