Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paolo Tiramani


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Liz Read! Talk! 03:42, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Paolo Tiramani

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There is only one citation that appears to suggest notability: brief mention in USA Today article. All other sources are self-published, SEC filings, press releases, or local newspaper simply reporting on a press release. Vast majority of the article is content promoting companies he is involved in. Can't find other sources beyond the USA Today to establish notability, and the article is primarily edited (sometimes disruptively) by apparent SPA accounts/IPs, suggesting this is largely promotional. Zim Zala Bim talk 20:54, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:02, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 * This is clearly an overzealous deletion that has been submitted after numerous attempts to remove relevant and cited information by user ZimZalaBim. Simply stating that a subject is not notable is not sufficient to get it deleted on this basis. Lurxxer (talk) 23:27, 25 July 2022 (UTC) — Lurxxer (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Please familiarize yourself with WP:NBIO, WP:PRIMARY, and WP:NOT. -- Zim Zala Bim talk 00:22, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Lurxxer and two other accounts are now blocked, for a combination of edit warring, undisclosed COI editing, and socking. Drmies (talk) 16:50, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 * It appears that @ZimZalaBim and @Lurxxer both participated in an edit war. User @ZimZalaBim removed a majority of the content from this page including many sources both primary and secondary. ThePageNinja (talk) 15:24, 27 July 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by DoctorSirMister (talk • contribs)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Weak delete The USA Today source seems to be the best. Plenty of mentions in a local Vegas paper about what the company is doing, nothing much for him as a person. Oaktree b (talk) 14:27, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, one source found in a book, not substantive coverage, but it's something. How do we feel about the book source? Oaktree b (talk) 14:29, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:23, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep Although hesitant, I agree that the USA Today article is the best source currently referenced. I see more in the edit history that I'd be inclined to take as well. Might consider WP:TOOSOON and go with a draftify in this situation but I think I'll sleep on it.--Littehammy (talk) 17:38, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Weak keep - looks like he's the founder and is/was CEO of two entities that seem to be somewhat notable. Boxabl looks kind of cool and there's a draft, and I found a decent amount of coverage that could help get it approved, despite the obvious COI history: [], [], [], []. Digging into this article's rocky history, I found some media coverage of another venture he founded through 500 Group, Supercar Systems []. Unfortunately, nothing more recent, so the car company may be defunct. Keeping this from being a full keep is that there's not that much biographical info about him, as pointed out above. I also don't see much about 500 Group besides the Supercar Coverage. The book is so-so, but appears to be written by someone promoting their software. This [] describes the Group and its patents, but there's no author byline, hurting its reliability. I'll look some more tomorrow and see if I can find anything more substantial. If most of the decent coverage is about his role with Boxabl, I'm not opposed to merging and redirecting this to a "founder" section in the Boxabl article (assuming the draft can be cleaned up and accepted).  TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  06:37, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The Vegas Review-Journal source [] discusses his previous role with 500 Group and mentions his patents, and a large deal with Stanley Black & Decker. I found this design-focused interview from 2015. [] I know interviews are considered inferior sources, but at least it sources his design background, and prefaces things by calling him an award-winning industrial designer. Some design samples follow the interview. This source [] shows the awards. Not earth shattering, but I think this, the previous 500 Group info, and what could be a good future article about Boxabl puts this into keep territory. <b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b> <sup style="color:#800080">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  20:33, 12 August 2022 (UTC)


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