Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Papa Joe Aviance (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Tone 06:54, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Papa Joe Aviance
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Fails WP:MUSICBIO. No evidence of being a musician. Seems to be only WP:1EVENT. Fails WP:BIO. No indication of being notable.  scope_creep Talk  19:32, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:53, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:53, 9 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete - A few things have changed since his first AfD in 2018, but not much. He is a longtime musician whose works were never noticed in the reliable music media. He got some significant but momentary coverage for his weight loss achievements, but I think he is still stuck with WP:1EVENT. This article is written with a focus on his old music career and new motivational speaking career, indicating that he is trying to use his momentary media notice for his weight loss as promotion for his other ventures. He can do that all he wants, except on Wikipedia where there are notability standards. ––  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 15:33, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete A few references here, but no particularly inspiring RS, and some of the references are his own website. He has won a few awards, but that doesn't seem to be enough to establish notability. Deathlibrarian (talk) 05:48, 12 September 2020 (UTC)


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