Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Papareto Principle


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete, and also read what Wikipedia is not. Tito xd (?!? - help us) 01:05, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Papareto Principle
I wish we had a way to speedy things like this - "an ordinary Singaporean, Jeffrey Ho, coined the term..." - vanity, unverifiable, etc. (ESkog)(Talk) 09:39, 29 January 2006 (UTC) I don't see why it should be deleted. The Board of Directors of GIC and Temasek Holdings number no more than 20 people and as far as the GIC is concerned and unlike the Hong Kong Monetary Authority which publishes its investments on a regular basis, the Singapore Government Investment Corporation, does not even account to Parliament for its investments performance, let alone its composition.[User: Singapore Citizen]
 * The article describes a principle that was, it says, invented roughly 48 hours ago. The article cites no sources and I can find no sources.   There is no evidence that this principle even exists outside of this Wikipedia article, let alone has been acknowledged by people other than its inventor and accepted into the corpus of human knowledge.  The article is unverifiable and original research. Delete. Uncle G 11:23, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as original research and unverifiable. Capitalistroadster 12:17, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as Complete bollocks, hoax, Can't call it original research since it's not research. 99.999/0.001 rule ?! *shakes head*. &mdash;This user has left wikipedia 13:28 2006-01-29
 * Delete and admit confusion as to why this isn't an obvious speedy. Article obviously admits non-notability of subject as something thought up one day, even if it wasn't in school.Ben Kidwell 19:21, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. A bon mot, nothing more. —rodii 02:27, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Because Wikipedia is not a soapbox. —rodii

How lame! Since Wikipedia is not a soapbox, ALL entries should be deleted? [User: Singapore Citizen]
 * (Well, at least you didn't delete my comment this time. That's progress. I'm glad you're talking instead of vandalizing.) No, that just means that you can't use Wikiepedia to argue for a particular political position--an encyclopedia is for communicating facts about a subject, not inspiring people (except indirectly) to political action. Did you read the page I linked to? An article reporting, in a neutral way, about the makeup of PAP or the GIC--about which I know nothing, so please don't think I'm against you politically--would be welcome, and, who knows, having those facts out in the open may do more to make change happen than some random witticism like the Papareto Principle. The point here is not about what's good for Singapore, it's about what's good for Wikipedia.
 * By the way, please sign your comments by adding four tildes ( ~ ) to the end of your posts. —rodii 12:37, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Just to clarify, I have NOT deleted anyone's comments here. To Wikipedia ADMINISTRATORS: I am not into semantics as far as the title of the entry is concerned. Although what is stated is not verifiable, the content of the entry is CONSISTENT with the following FACTS: Mr Lee Kuan Yew, Singapore's Prime Minister from 3 June 1959 to 1990, then Senior Minister until August 2004 and now Minister Mentor, gave an interview, on the occasion marking the 20th anninversary of the GIC, to the Asian Wall Street Journal which published it on 22 April 2001. The AWSJ article listed the Directors of GIC - Government Investment Corporation of Singapore - for the first time, as far as I know. The then Prime Minister Goh Chok Tong was NOT on the list of Directors of the GIC Board which was then, and I believe still is CHAIRED by Mr Lee Kuan Yew, with the then Deputy Prime Minister, Mr Lee Hsien Loong, who is current Prime Minister, and son of Mr Lee Kuan Yew, as the Deputy Chairman of GIC. Any rational thinking person would want to know why was it that the Prime Minister of Singapore at that time, Mr Goh Chok Tong, was not even on GIC's Board, since as Prime Minister he was the HEAD OF GOVERNMENT. Although the Singapore Constitution was amended by the PAP administration under Mr Lee Kuan Yew giving the President of the Republic of Singapore a DUTY to protect Singapore's reserves, the former ELECTED President who had prior to his election as President had served under Mr Lee Kuan Yew's administration for around 14 years with his last Cabinet post as the Deputy Prime Minister, had PUBLICLY let known that he was not given the list of Singapore's reserves when first taking office and it was only three and a half years later that he was given an incomplete list, with the excuse from the then Prime Minister Goh Chok Tong's administration that it would take 56 man years to have a complete list. As for the veracity of whatever financial statements which might be available to the other Board Members of the GIC, no one really knows, as according to Mr Lee Kuan Yew in the AWSJ interview, the financial statements of GIC were "CHECKED" - PLEASE NOTE: NOT AUDITED - by the Auditor General of Singapore, who is a CIVIL SERVANT. Mr Lee Kuan Yew had been PUBLICLY reported to have said that the "PAP IS THE GOVERNMENT", which would mean that there was/is NO INDEPENDENCE. Incidentally, the Auditor General is Mr Chuang Kwong Yong, whose first degree is in PSYCHOLOGY and had been a civil servant since his graduation and later studied obtained his Master's in Business Administration. His last most senior ranking positions were as the Permanent Secretary in the Ministry of Labour, which is now known as the Ministry of Manpower, and as the Chief Executive Officer of the Housing and Development Board. As far as is known, Mr Chuang had NO EXPERIENCE as an auditor before his appointment as the Auditor General, although the public do not know who in the Auditor General's Department, actually did/does the "CHECKING" of GIC's accounts and financial statements and to what degree of "CHECKING". Despite the huge losses suffered by a computer disc drive manufacturer, Micropolis, which was shut down within two years after it was bought with a total loss exceeding S$600 Million; and the accumulated loss of over US$1.0 BILLION, currently - although the loss of around US$750 million in FY2002 - suffered by Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing, which is listed on NASDAQ and the Singapore Exchange, Ho Ching, the wife of the current Prime Minister, Mr Lee Hsien Loong and who was directly responsible for the purchase of Micropolis and was directly responsible for the start up and management of Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing, was appointed as the Executive Director and thus EFFECTIVELY the Chief Executive Office of Temasek Holdings, which is responsible for the managing of assets worth around S$180 BILLION.[User: Singapore Citizen]
 * Delete per nom. Tom Harrison Talk 04:23, 31 January 2006 (UTC)


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