Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paris–Dakar Bike Race


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Black Kite (t) (c) 23:16, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Paris–Dakar Bike Race

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This event is non-notable. The event is non-professional, all entrants ride for charity. It is not massive, 32 cyclist rode more than 1 km in 2010, with only 11 riding all km, similar numbers for the two previous editions. It should be compared to ultracycling events such as Race Across America, which was run for the 29th time in 2010, with 85 cyclists. Other than the website of the organising company and a few articles written by the organizer of the race, no reliable sources can be found about the race, other than one report in the Telegraph. This report written by one of the cyclists, was placed in the 'travel' section, and does not even mention the winner. One reliable source with little information is not enough for a wikipedia article. The PROD that I placed in the article was contested. EdgeNavidad (Talk · Contribs) 07:25, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * This race is really hard and I think it is notable. They don't ride for charity, or for whos charity? Does Olympic winners get money? Sport shouldn't be so much for money anyway.
 * I'm not sure about the newer years, but in 2006 it was really important, Estonians took a double win, and they were kind of heros, see a video when they returned. So do you want me to make an article of 2006 Paris–Dakar Bike Race, I'm not sure it would be OK. And I think sonewhy everybody wants to delete something, when they could make it a great article. So I could use some help after keeping it. Pelmeen10 (talk) 12:23, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * It's not about how hard the race is (around 120 km per day is hard but not extremely hard, even for 50 days, if a professional cyclist such as Jaan Kirsipuu would have joined he would have easily finished and won the race) but how notable it is. That the race is not professional does not make it a lesser race, but it makes it less notable. Can you give reliable sources about the race, that show it is notable? --EdgeNavidad (Talk · Contribs) 12:59, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure, what do you call reliable. But maybe you can get some links Here. Pelmeen10 (talk) 22:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * As I stated there, two of those sources are not reliable according to the Wikipedia Reliable Source criteria, as they are self-published. The Paris-Dakar bike race is a wonderful event, but it did not gather enough attention to make it notable for a wikipedia article.
 * I found this website, that gathered all the press mentions of the race. It was not that much, unfortunately, not enough for Wikipedia notability. --EdgeNavidad (Talk · Contribs) 16:12, 18 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: Step 3 of the AfD process was not completed. It has been fixed. &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 16:16, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:29, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep was my opinion. How long does it have to continue? Pelmeen10 (talk) 14:39, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Normally this is listed for 1 week, but because I made a mistake in the procedure, it was not listed until 21 September. So we will have to wait until 28 September, I'm sorry. --EdgeNavidad (Talk · Contribs) 19:04, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:04, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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