Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paris Hilton's second album


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The result was Delete, and redirected to Paris Hilton. Cenarium Talk  14:23, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Paris Hilton's second album
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Violates WP:CRYSTAL. Album has no name yet. No sources other then an on air interview. Hammer's Law applies.  Gtstricky Talk or C 18:26, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:HAMMER indeed. Delete, no verifiable info. Why the hell do peopple do this all the time? Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 18:29, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete:WP:CRYSTAL&mdash;Kww (talk) 18:37, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete for reasons expressed above. RFerreira (talk) 18:42, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Crystal. Bill (talk 19:35, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete for obvious reasons. - eo (talk) 20:30, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep:The interview is more than enough verifitable and more than enough reliable....nothing in this article in untrue....everything is 100 % true....all form the interview............, and paris said in the interview that the album will be released "in the next couple of weeks", so why delete it when its gonna be recreated "in the next couple of weeks"......there are many articles created for yet unreleased albums, so why you want to delete only this one?......CHECKORUP (talk) 20:43, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete - it's CrystalHammer Time! AlexTiefling (talk) 20:48, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. I have to say, my initial reaction was to remove all links to the new single and the album, as I've done innumerable times, but while the song surely fails WP:MUSIC, this album passes WP:MUSIC. I've just listened to the radio interview, and the facts from the article are all confirmed by the primary, reliable source Paris Hilton. And while that interview and thus the album announcement is only a couple of hours old, it is already generating significant noise in the news, and I really don't need a crystal ball to know that this will increase during the next hours or days to become definitely notable (and I urge the closing admin to check this at the time). In particular, it is not a violation of WP:CRYSTAL, since it is verifiable and of sufficiently wide interest that it would merit an article if the event had already occurred. I agree that the article creation was premature and could have waited a couple of days, but deleting it now is very POINTy. A merge to Paris Hilton or her discography is the least that we should do, and as before I say we keep it. -- Amalthea Talk 21:02, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment One problem is that the announcement is not particularly credible. She finished recording it "a few days ago", and it will be "released in a couple of weeks"? How many albums have you seen that had a 17 day lag from the last recording session to release? Didn't have a title two weeks for release? When I see a record company provide a release date, track list, and title, I'll agree that it isn't crystal. Without those, it clearly is.&mdash;Kww (talk) 21:09, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Crystal ball --Banime (talk) 21:15, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete: I don't see why this shouldn't stay in the artist's article until the title, release date and track list have been verified by reliable sources. Cliff smith  talk  21:30, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Crystal hammer. 'nuff said MuZemike  ( talk ) 21:38, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, STOP.......Hammer time.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 00:13, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. Ward3001 (talk) 00:24, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete If this doesn't define crystal ball, nothing does. Even the release date mentioned is vague. Many albums set to be released in X year are released the next year or later. Look at Jennifer Hudson's new CD. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 11:45, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per everyone. Don't feel like making a hammer joke this time. JuJube (talk) 14:01, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * What about Christina Aguilera's forthcoming album, why is it okay for it to stay ??......if Christina Aguilera's forthcoming album can stay, then this article can stay too.CHECKORUP (talk) 21:34, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Other Stuff is on Wikipedia and mine should be too is not a valid argument.  Gtstricky Talk or C 22:18, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


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