Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Parker Liautaud


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The result was   keep. Lankiveil (speak to me) 11:13, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Parker Liautaud

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Article may lack notability and has COI issues.  Ajaxfiore talk 03:16, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
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 * Keep. The subject is notable in so far as he's doing something that isn't an ordinary thing to do. Would suggest gutting the article and starting again though. I also note the original COI perp appears to have removed their account. --gilgongo (talk) 13:40, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
 * "he's doing something that isn't an ordinary thing to do" is not a criterion for notability. LibStar (talk) 14:04, 28 December 2013 (UTC)


 * delete overly self promotional and sorely lacking reliable sources. WillisResilience.com is used as a source which is primary. The only good third party source is ny times. Sources like this add nothing. Article claims he was interviewed by BBC but I found no such record. LibStar (talk) 14:16, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep – LibStar I found this from the BBC although it's not an interview and here is an interview from ABC. There is also these sources from The Independent:, &  which aren't currently included in the article. Although the article may need a rewrite due to COI issues, I think there is sufficient reliable sources available to demonstrate this individual has received significant media coverage & would therfore pass WP:GNG. &#9733;&#9734;  DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 17:57, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep First I apologize to not login into my account. Fear is the reason why and I cannot give more details. Parker L is the son of a billionnaire and has indeed been inspired by polar travel. Yes you will find many articles about him especially recently. When you have big sponsors and big money, it is easy to be featured in the press (especially online). But the facts claimed on his wikipedia page are lies. He misled the press who "believes" the young boy but veterans explorers aren't fooled. He strictly hasn't broken ANY records http://www.explorersweb.com/polar/news.php?url=south-pole-update_1388156897 In ALL of his expeditions, he was GUIDED by Doug Stoup. The North pole treks he did started from around degree 89 and they went to the North pole at 90 degrees. In adventure terms, no one cares about last degrees (only 111km) as any person could achieve this with a bit of training and a lot of money to join a guided trip. See it as an adventure travel but in (YES) extreme conditions. So he has undertaken 3 LAST DEGREE expeditions to the North pole. Not full lenght polar treks. But don't take me wrong just a last degree is a great achievement for the person doing it, but in the eyes of the public, I'd say it is not harder than climbing Aconcongua for instance, which has been achieved tens of thousands of times. It is just cheaper than a North pole LAST DEGREE trek. For his latest claim about the South Pole. He is not the youngest, he was supported with arctics trucks. If he was really serious about beating a decent speed record to the south pole, he would not film or take many photos and certainly not do a science program. It doesn't make sense to lose time doing that. Imagine a car racer stopping every 10 km to himself measure how many mm of gum he lost on his 4 tyres and measureing the current temperature of the tyres. The only reason to keep this article is that PERHAPS some of the measurements done are really beneficial for science and he is doing talks to inspire. But for now, I believe most of the polar explorers do not accept his claims. But to keep it, it has to be completely rewritten and sure facts must be checked by people who are willing to learn more about polar travel and records. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.11.179.32 (talk) 23:18, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment Please be aware of Wikipedia's policies for information on living persons: WP:BLP. Comments in violation of the policy may be refactored or removed.  Ajaxfiore talk 23:03, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * how does "Parker L is the son of a billionnaire" add to notability? LibStar (talk) 15:51, 4 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 04:50, 4 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Note: The article has been significantly modified by new user . Ajaxfiore (talk) 16:03, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - While the intent of the piece was clearly promotional, there is coverage of this fellow all over the internets, for example, The Independent, CNN, and Time magazine. This is a slam-dunk easy Keep and rather an embarrassment to all of us at AfD that this wasn't closed as such days ago. Carrite (talk) 00:50, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
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