Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Parviz Haghendish


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 02:05, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Parviz Haghendish

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Non-notable individual. Most of the very few google hits are as a result of this article. Orange Marlin Talk• Contributions 22:41, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NOTE: no sources, and little prospect of significant reliable third party coverage. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 06:03, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete As per above. And it failed to meet Notability (people). --Efe (talk) 11:26, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions.   -- the wub  "?!"  11:58, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions.   -- the wub  "?!"  11:58, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment - he would qualify as an athlete competing at the highest level of his sport if we can confirm that he was a member of the Iranian National fencing team. However, the information provided is very skimpy and searching for his name does not turn up any articles, competition results or anything to confirm this.  -- Whpq (talk) 16:55, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed, this is not a candidate for speedy deletion and if we can confirm that he was on the Iranian National Fencing team, he probably is worthy of an article.--- Balloonman  PoppaBalloon 17:08, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Even if "competition results" or similar turned up, this would not provide the basis for an encyclopaedic article -- WP:NOT: "Routine news coverage of such things as ... sports ... are not sufficient basis for an article." HrafnTalkStalk(P) 17:18, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree that turning up competition results is not sufficient for expanding the article, but what we are trying to establish is whether the subject is notable enough for an article. Competition results would be a way to validate that he did compete at the top of his sport.  As an Iranian athlete, I doubt very much that he would have any English language coverage to speak of, and we should keep in mind systemic bias. -- Whpq (talk) 18:49, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yuppers, the article claims that he was both a competitor at the highest level and a coach at the highest level, if this can be affirmed then it would become the basis for an argument to be kept as a notable athlete. If he played for the national team, does that potentially means he competed at the Olympics.  To me, there is no doubt that if the claims can be verified that this person would be notable enough to keep.  The burden thus, is on Patar to find something to show that Parviz was a what the article claims.  While I agree, systemic bias may make this difficult, the proof doesn't necessarily have to be in English!--- Balloonman  PoppaBalloon 22:36, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You must have me confused with the creator. While I did put some edits onto the page, the creator is actually User:James Patrick Wright. From his userpage, we can tell that he is a member of the Ottawa fencing club which Parviz Haghendish coaches at, and is in a better position to get potential print sources from his coach. I'm just some random fencer who once went to Parviz's summer camp, and unfortunately doesn't understand Persian, and is in no position to get Parviz Haghendish's Persian name. --Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:40, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Unless something can be provided to substantiate the claim, and the fencing clubs website is not a RS, then the article is likely to be deleted. The claim is one that, if substantiated, might make him notable enough to keep, but without proof this will end up being deleted.--- Balloonman  PoppaBalloon 15:02, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, the Iranian Fencing Federation's website's English version does not seem to work, and its Persian version cannot be translated by Google translations. If anyone fluent in Persian, or with a translation tool which can translate Persian, wants, they can take a crack at it. --Patar knight - chat/contributions 17:24, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment A quick Google search turns up this, which doesn't really meet RS. Also, this person's Canadian Fencing Federation license is under Parvis Haghandish, as seen here, so the current article's name might not be the only one to turn up G-hits. Also, judging by his picture from the first linked site, and nationality, his fencing career wouldn't have received much online media coverage. --Patar knight - chat/contributions 17:36, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The sources do not have to be online sources.--- Balloonman  PoppaBalloon 20:47, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete as he fails to meet Notability (people). --Boston (talk) 15:46, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
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 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.