Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paschimbanga Dibas


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The result was delete. ‑Scottywong | comment _ 01:54, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Paschimbanga Dibas

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Fails WP:NEVENT. The entire event was coined a couple of years back as a part and parcel of Hindutvavadi politics and is far from being mainstreamed.

The first source is an op-ed by a Hindu bigot over a Bengali daily.

The second and third sources fails WP:RS by a few miles or so, per WP:NEWSORG.

The fourth source (a Bengali daily) dated 20 May, 2018 mentions that a group of intellectuals wish to celebrate 20 June as Paschimbanga Divas. Nothing else.

The fifth source (over a reputed media) covers the event as part of BJP's communal politics in Bengal. ✅

The sixth source is a BA dissertation.

Seeing nothing else over reliable sources (both English and Bengali), except that a few Hindus who were going to celebrate the event threw off a Muslim from train, because of wearing a skull-cap:-( &#x222F; WBG converse 08:02, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
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 * Could it be because people are celebrating on the wrong day? &#9786;
 * Uncle G (talk) 20:31, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I guess that's because 23rd's the next Sunday after 20th. When I used to be over USA, the diasporic population shew a strong tendency to celebrate all events over the next Sunday after the actual event, to attract more participation. FWIW, that's not a RS and does not contribute to WP:N. &#x222F; <b style="color:#070">WBG</b> converse 12:04, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep The article meets the WP:Notability criteria and it is gaining attention in the Politics right now. Wikipedia pages should be neutral and any people/events from any political spectrum should be included if it has encyclopedic value. First source is reliable but credits of the statement should be given to the person who have wrote the OP-Ed in the newspaper. WP:Bias policy states that Wikipedia page should be neutral but sources can be biased and they are best to know different viewpoints. It is not required that person who did original research outside Wikipedia should be neutral, if it is requirement then all of the authors will become bigot due to people from other spectrum. Hence, the only recommendation will be to include the various view points of TMC, CPI (M) in the article and the statements of their leaders. Also, according to Wikipedia's WP:Verifiability policy, non-Ennglish sources can be used as reference. This article shouldn't be deleted. --Harshil169 (talk) 07:04, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * , op-eds can be used but they don't contribute to notability.
 * I am a native Bengali speaker and have no idea about why you mention the point of non-English sources, being usable as references. The reasons behind non-suitability of Ref-2&3 have got nothing to with language but with failure of WP:NEWSORG. &#x222F; <b style="color:#070">WBG</b> converse 12:12, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I am a native Bengali speaker and have no idea about why you mention the point of non-English sources, being usable as references. The reasons behind non-suitability of Ref-2&3 have got nothing to with language but with failure of WP:NEWSORG. &#x222F; <b style="color:#070">WBG</b> converse 12:12, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I am a native Bengali speaker and have no idea about why you mention the point of non-English sources, being usable as references. The reasons behind non-suitability of Ref-2&3 have got nothing to with language but with failure of WP:NEWSORG. &#x222F; <b style="color:#070">WBG</b> converse 12:12, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * I got your point but you have said that Hindu Bigot wrote this article which is not proper word to use. In Wikipedia, Teesta Setalwad's articles and Rana Ayyub's book are also cited as source which is obviously not reliable if we can check by WP:RS; even court had told to Prashant Bhushan that this is not reliable. My point is anyone's article can be used. Can you go in the more details that how 2nd and 3rd reference exactly violate the WP:NEWSORG criteria? --Harshil169 (talk) 12:22, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * He is a bigot and I stand by it.
 * I don't think Rana Ayuub is a RS for the Gujarat-affairs and don't spot her book as a source over Naroda_Patiya_massacre (which's a GA) or the main article about the riots, either. Obviously, there are scholarly sources who've used her as a source and that's fine enough. (FWIW, the Court's verdict is not a reliable indicator of scholarly reliability ... )
 * One of the sources is Samakal Darpan. Seems to be founded by a person of zero credibility and I can't spot anything else. Cached version of a FB page shows 48 likes but the page is currently unavailable. Have not ever heard of the paper. Don't confuse with Samakal, from Bangladesh.
 * Swastika is a (self-proclaimed) nationalist Bengali weekly. Have never heard of it, either. No mention or cross-referencing by any other reliable sources (frankly, there's no site, irrespective of reliability, that even talks about them). &#x222F; <b style="color:#070">WBG</b> converse 12:43, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * One of the sources is Samakal Darpan. Seems to be founded by a person of zero credibility and I can't spot anything else. Cached version of a FB page shows 48 likes but the page is currently unavailable. Have not ever heard of the paper. Don't confuse with Samakal, from Bangladesh.
 * Swastika is a (self-proclaimed) nationalist Bengali weekly. Have never heard of it, either. No mention or cross-referencing by any other reliable sources (frankly, there's no site, irrespective of reliability, that even talks about them). &#x222F; <b style="color:#070">WBG</b> converse 12:43, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Swastika is a (self-proclaimed) nationalist Bengali weekly. Have never heard of it, either. No mention or cross-referencing by any other reliable sources (frankly, there's no site, irrespective of reliability, that even talks about them). &#x222F; <b style="color:#070">WBG</b> converse 12:43, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Just Chilling (talk) 14:30, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom. -- Zayeem  (talk) 00:46, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, non notable event, nothing found any reliable source on google. Fails WP:NEVENT-- <b style="color: White;">Nahal</b> (T) 12:11, 28 July 2019 (UTC)


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