Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Passion, Pain & Pleasure


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   incubate to Article Incubator/Passion, Pain & Pleasure. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 18:10, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Passion, Pain &amp; Pleasure
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We can not base an article on sources from Twitter and Amazon.com. There is not a single reliable second party source for anything on this page. Since theres not a source for it I am to assume tracklist and release date are fake so it fails WP:CRYSTAL  Red Flag on  the Right Side  23:11, 9 August 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  —  Gongshow  Talk 04:59, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Incubate until the album is released or at least a track listing can be confirmed. The Amazon.com link is dead, the link from Trey's official website is simply a comment section, and the Twitter links are really bare URLs. Erpert (let's talk about it) 06:13, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Incubate or redirect (my vote will go with the most votes of either choice). Something like this should have been created in a sandbox.  Lil_℧niquℇ №1   (talk2me)  04:06, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. According to this page on Trey Songz' official website,, the album will be released September 14, and is available for pre-order. Also, he is currently on tour promoting the album, so I wouldn't quite call it WP:CRYSTAL. ≈  Alessandro  ♫T • C 16:47, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete. I don't think it violates WP:Crystal, but it is plain advertising. Some advertising executive is wetting his whistle somewhere, thinking lets advertise it on Wikipedia, put it in 2 months just before launch, that way we will get some free advertising, with a reduced chance of removal since it's so close to release. Its not factual with no verifiable sources. Delete it. scope_creep (talk) 20:30, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.