Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pat Divilly


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The result was delete. Failure to meet notabilty standards with additional WP:COI and WP:NOTPROMO concerns. Just Chilling (talk) 13:10, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Pat Divilly

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essentially advertising, and presumably coi and very possibly paid. If actually notable, should be started over by an uninvolved editor  DGG ( talk ) 09:02, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 09:35, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Health and fitness-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 09:35, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 09:35, 14 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete overly promotional article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:03, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. COI and PROMO concerns notwithstanding, and while I'm not perhaps ready to advocate a "keep" or "delete" either way, I am not personally sure GNG is met. I say this because, while there is clearly some coverage of the subject (including of the 2014 "young entrepreneurs" win), much of it wouldn't seem to meet the SIGCOV guidelines. Specifically, much of the coverage seems to be in non-national outlets like the Connacht Tribune and Galway Advertiser (the latter a regional freesheet). The coverage that is in national outlets seems either to be only indirectly related to the subject, or is not entirely independent of the subject. On the former ("subject not primary topic of coverage") for example, the piece in the Independent Health and Wellbeing supplement is more about paleo diets than the subject, and in the Irish Times piece the subject is mentioned among several other potential personal trainers. On the latter ("coverage not independent of subject"), pieces like the Business & Finance interview would seem to be Q&A/PR pieces published to coincide with the subject's press activity/book launches/etc. It may be that the article can be improved (to address the COI and PROMO issues). But, once we've removed all the uncited NOTCV stuff (about primary school and early interest in fitness), and tempered the uncited PROMO stuff (about having the best selling fitness book in Ireland), I'm not sure what is left. (Other than the shout-out from Facebook for being good at Facebook. And the award from the Galway business community for being good at business. And the two books. All of which are great. And laudable. But which are perhaps not particularly strong notability claims relative to this project's goals). The subject's listing on his PR/entertaintment agency's website is quite likely accurate. And he likely can be described as an "author and corporate speaker from Galway who features regularly in print media, radio and TV". Whether that meets this project's criteria I'm not sure either way.... Guliolopez (talk) 02:13, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Further comment. While still somewhat "on the fence", it is somewhat interesting to note that the article, in its current form, was substantively recreated from a previous incarnation. Which had been deleted as "unambiguous advertising or promotion". Guliolopez (talk) 02:46, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:COI, WP:NOTPROMO, fails WP:AUTHOR fails WP:SIGCOV. Page created by an SPA:  in 2015.  Divilly is a Paleolithic diet guru  (a large tribe inclined towards self-promotion.)  His books do get mentioned by local press in feature articles on Paleo diets, but they were not reviewed, and the 2nd book was the subject of a feature story.  Nice, for a small businessman, but I do not see that it makes him notable.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:43, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per and per E.M.Gregory. Spleodrach (talk) 05:59, 21 July 2019 (UTC)


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