Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pat Lally


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Keep. Peacent 02:37, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Pat Lally

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Non-notable former leader. Fails to meet criteria of WP:BIO.--Edtropolis 16:42, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Keep Being the former Lord Provost of Scotland is hardly non-notable. When his wife passed away earlier this year, she was dubbed "First Lady of Scotland". Also, the subject is getting a lot of media attention for his recent political run for the Scottish Senior Citizen's Party. Needs cleanup, sources.--Ispy1981 16:56, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Keep The article is certainly a stub and could use some copyediting, but the figure is notable and there is enough content currently in place to warrant expansion. --Nonstopdrivel 17:28, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Scotland-related deletions.   -- --  pb30 < talk > 19:50, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Have added 2 external links which clearly show he does meet WP:BIO. Davewild 20:22, 15 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep - sorry he is notable. He's nicknamed "Lazarus Lally" (for being a comeback king), he's a major Glasgow figure. --MacRusgail 22:16, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak keep on the basis of his having been for several years, the equivalent of the mayor of a major city. That said, please find more references about his mayorship. He sounds like a fringe candidate now. Edison 23:26, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak keep per Edison. Ben MacDui (Talk) 16:23, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep and I suggest that the amount of work being caused by nominations for deletion without prior checks or any real explanation of how it fails to meet the criteria are increasing disrupting the work of wikipedia. Perhaps its time for some standards about what an AfD must contain, or some way of sanctioning editors who bring nominations that are almost always not accepted.DGG 08:22, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - I think that might be unfair, there's a number of different factors here. I can see why Lally was nominated. He's probably not well known beyond Scotland - possibly not Glasgow (I'm not from and have never lived in Glasgow, but I am aware of him - maybe I'm the exception) --MacRusgail 22:32, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep He's a former leader of the council and a notorious figure in Glasgow - recently stood for election to parliament in his 80s. His history IS the history of Glasgow politics.--Sandy Donald 22:26, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - he was also caught up in the Glasgow city of culture business as well (and not all the positive side) --MacRusgail 22:30, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, yes. I'm not a great admirer of the man - but his noteworthiness is not in doubt.--Sandy Donald 08:29, 19 June 2007 (UTC)


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