Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patareni (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. Mr.Z-man 17:19, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Patareni

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Serious WP:V issues. The band appears to have been around for a long time, with an impressive number of releases; however, without multiple albums on a notable independent label this doesn't pass WP:MUSIC. If sources can be found to establish notability then fair enough, but I've looked and couldn't spy any. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 19:54, 5 September 2008 (UTC) 
 * Comment I have somehow messed up this nomination, but cannot quite work out where... Blackmetalbaz (talk) 19:59, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   —Eastmain (talk) 20:05, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * See Articles for deletion/Patareni for the previous AfD.--Eastmain (talk) 20:05, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. At present there is little claim of notability, and no sources. None of the releases appear to be on significant labels. Can't really see how the 'Keep' opinions in the previous AfD were justified.--Michig (talk) 20:19, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment There was at one point a claim that they pre-dated Napalm Death in creating grindcore, but nobody was able to source it. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 20:38, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment The group did get a review from Aversion, an online music magazine with a fairly wide readership. Though they have an article (substub) in Portuguese, they don't seem to have one in Croatian; there is no hr:Patareni. It would be worth having someone who speaks Croatian look for sources in the group's native language. Chubbles (talk) 20:45, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * CommentThe review is actually for a Paterani tribute album, featuring at least the likes of the highly notable Cripple Bastards. That they have a tribute album suggests some notability, but sources continue to elude me. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 21:00, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Ryan Postlethwaite See the mess I've created or let's have banter 03:01, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Very Weak Delete Can't find sufficient sources to establish notability. Brilliantine (talk) 03:31, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:V concerns. We66er (talk) 18:00, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


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