Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patience (George Michael song)


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The result was merge to Patience (George Michael album). Kurykh (talk) 01:34, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Patience (George Michael song)

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Notability is not inherited, nor has it been established in the content of the article. It is not a single. It did not chart. It has not won any awards. It is simply a song on an album. Kellymoat (talk) 14:14, 20 January 2017 (UTC)


 *  sock strike  Keep- If being a single and having awards is the criteria for a song being 'Notable', then why there is there are no proposed delete for Southampton Dock by Pink Floyd, It's the Falling in Love by Michael Jackson and The New Timer by Bruce Springsteen. I really want to assume good faith but when I see things like this I just wonder why. Anyway the song Patience is notable enough to have been reviewed by the Chicago Tribune, its nature being one of the anti-war songs in the album, being performed live in a concert tour. Aside from the fact is it from Michael's final studio album of original material. Although there are multiple citations in the article, there is still work need to be done to improve but deleting is not the solution. GM25LIVE (talk) 15:03, 20 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Other stuff exists - we can worry about other articles later. Right now, the issue is THIS article. Why is the subject of this article notable? Independently. Separate from the album. Separate from the artist. Solely based on the song, and only the song. Kellymoat (talk) 15:18, 20 January 2017 (UTC)


 *  sock strike  Other stuff exists Well it can be a valid argument. The song is notable for being one of the anti-war songs in the album (along with Shoot the Dog) and specifically mentioned by albums reviewers for that reason as well as being the a title track and opening/ending track of the album. I think this establish some kind notability even if you disagree with the level of such notability GM25LIVE (talk) 15:36, 20 January 2017 (UTC)


 *  sock strike  Keep- The song was included in the artist's Greatest Hits compilation. Faithtour (talk) 15:50, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge to Patience (George Michael album). Being released as a single is not what makes a song notable, charting doesn't make it notable, winning awards doesn't make it notable - however, those are things that could result in the song being discussed in reliable sources, which IS what makes a song notable and what WP:NSONGS says. The sources provided are specifically discussing the album Patience so a redirect is warranted per the statement in NSONGS which says "coverage of a song in the context of an album review does not establish notability." -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 18:59, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 10:20, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  sock strike  Keep should be kept and improved.  From the context of being a protest song, the article is within the scope of WikiProject Anti-war, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the anti-war movement on Wikipedia. It is both an opening and ending track of the album, Patience and also appears in a greatest hits compilation from the artist. Although it has limited references, a constructive editor could add more to improve the article ChargerHellcat (talk) 12:04, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 00:39, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge to Patience (George Michael album). There doesn't seem to be any coverage of this song separate from the album. Doesn't satisfy elements of WP:NSONG. Gab4gab (talk) 17:30, 4 February 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.