Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patricia Eugenia Cárdenas Santa María (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) JAaron95  &#40; Talk &#41;  15:58, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Patricia Eugenia Cárdenas Santa María
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Last AfD only had one other participant with a very weak argument that ambassadors are inherently notable, which is not true. Fails WP:BIO. Coverage merely confirms she held positions LibStar (talk) 08:18, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
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 * Keep I have added additional material about her career NealeFamily (talk) 23:36, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * whilst article improvement is welcome, your edit adds just routine material about her career from a press statement. what we need is genuine indepth coverage from third party sources. LibStar (talk) 04:05, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:54, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't disagree with you on that, however it does point to there being more to this lady than just her ambassadorship. What we really need is someone who has access to Columbian or South American material to source better data. NealeFamily (talk) 08:00, 20 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep - look for "Patricia Cárdenas" (optional + embajadora) full name is rarely used 103.27.227.107 (talk) 09:23, 21 June 2015 (UTC). This is me by the way. KiwikiKiWi (talk) 11:26, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Notable. WP:BIO does not specifically mention diplomats. It does refer to "politicians ... who have held international ... office", which expression it does not now define. Whether or not that includes ambassadors, the guideline does say that a person is notable if they are "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention". Ambassadors satisfy that criteria. We should, therefore, follow the draft notability criteria of WP:NBILATERAL, which are a correct exposition of that basic idea. James500 (talk) 09:15, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
 * drafts like essays do not replace current guidelines which do not give inherent notability to ambassadors. LibStar (talk) 13:37, 27 June 2015 (UTC)


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