Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patrick Bouvier Kennedy (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   speedy keep. (non-admin closure) Stickee (talk)  09:28, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Patrick Bouvier Kennedy (2nd nomination)

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 * (currently not an article, Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:36, 12 December 2010 (UTC))

These articles are merely about children of American presidents that are not notable themselves. Notability is not inherited. One problem is that there are POV pushers, some of whom are paid political operatives (as reported by the news), that want to push a political agenda. By grouping several similar articles, they will have a harder time to act bias since they would treat several articles the same way. Of course, they could come up with fake excuses.

Let's try to determine which ones we keep.

Note that all these articles are not notable. Some presidential children, such as George W. Bush, are obviously very notable. Forgotpasswordsht (talk) 01:11, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Keep all the people, and consider the dog separately.If you want to determine which articles to keep, nominate them individually; a joint nomination is for things of equal importance, and to see someone's dog and his children as of equal or even similar importance does not seem reasonable.    There are exceptions to every generalization, and some people in the world ares sufficiently famous with such great popular attention that their first order relatives are notable, and this includes heads of state & government of major nations.  BTW, the first AfD, a very clear keep,  was at Articles for deletion/Patrick Bouvier Kennedy. Looking at it , I see that  one of the delete !voters said, he would be of zero importance if his family wasn't famous, which I guess proves the point that in this case, he's of much greater importance-- the reasons why someone is important can be very various.   DGG ( talk ) 05:23, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Procedural keep We can't possibly be expected to consider the deletion of six quite different articles in the one nomination. I'd suggest nominating them separately (or do one first, see how that goes, and then nominate the others depending on the outcome of the first). --Mkativerata (talk) 07:17, 12 December 2010 (UTC)


 * This is a mirror page. Doubled page is here: Articles for deletion/Patrick Bouvier Kennedy (2nd nomination)). This guy is a troll. Outback the koala (talk) 08:19, 12 December 2010 (UTC)


 *  votes transferred from duplicate nomination page:


 * Speedy Keep Disruptive nom. One of these thing doesnt belong (Bo), a for sure speedy keep. The rest also a strong keep (but not speedy). They are notable subjects. Outback the koala (talk) 03:02, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 03:09, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep: This little idiot brand-new-account nominator made sure to make an innocuous comment on my talkpage to draw me here.  I have no idea why.  The nominations are clearly in bad faith.--Milowent • talkblp-r  04:07, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - bad-faith trolling. --CliffC (talk) 04:34, 12 December 2010 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.