Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patrick Fisher


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Allowing eventual recreation later, if WP:ATHLETE is met Tone 19:12, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Patrick Fisher

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fails WP:ATHLETE, since the United Football League doesn't actually operate yet, so there's no way in hell he can have had a cap. Ironholds (talk) 17:54, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep per eventualism. The UFL is starting play this fall; with schedules and televised games and all of that.  It is a fully professional league, and if all we are saying is that this person will become notable in a month and so we need to wait the month to delete and then undelete the article, that seems pointless.  Since the reasons to delete become wrong in 1 month, why delete now?  -- Jayron  32  22:34, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Because the fact that he's in the league doesn't mean he'll eventually be capped. In a month he has the possibility of at some point playing for the professional team. That doesn't mean that in exactly a month, bam! He'll have played and become notable. The standard set at WP:ATHLETE is that a player must have been capped for a team - simply being a member is not enough. Now, lets say we take away the fact that the league hasn't started yet - he's a player for a fully professional team and hasn't been capped yet. Under those circumstances the consensus is always to delete - why should that change because not only hasn't he been capped yet, he certainly WON'T be capped for at least another month? Ironholds (talk) 23:40, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Has never played professionally thus failing WP:ATH.-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 00:36, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:ATHLETE; the current keep arguments violate WP:CRYSTAL and fall under WP:UPANDCOMING. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  01:25, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Per above. And perhaps it is WP:COI? – túrian  patois  01:57, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

There are numerous athletes that create wiki pages, even ones that have not even played in the pros. I can link you to them if you want. I would do your research before you start to speculate on others. Also, I have real no affliation to the person "Patrick Fisher". We both grew up in the same area as him and was searching for him on wikipedia and realized he didn't have a wiki page. He has accomplished alot throughout his career and thought it should be recognized. When I created the account, I thought the title of the page created had to be the same as the username so that is why it is the same. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patrick M. Fisher (talk • contribs) 02:42, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * If you know of other articles created by their subjects, or about people who have not played at the professional or Olympic level, please let us know so that they can be examined. The existence of such articles does not justify the creation of others; that argument, which is not considered a valid one, is known as "other stuff exists" or more vulgar versions of the same. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  13:19, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That doesn't seem to fly. Your username is Patrick M. Fisher while the article is Patrick Fisher. – túrian  patois  02:46, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Well you are wrong so you know and shouldn't be so quick to judge. I told you why they are the same. Its my first time registering. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patrick M. Fisher (talk • contribs) 02:51, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Link us to other pages of players who have never played a professional game and I'll be happy to nominate them for deletion too. Ironholds (talk) 13:32, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Second that, since I've been nominating a few of the guys I come across who haven't played professionally, I'll be happy to nominate some more.-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 13:37, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. While I was there when Patrick screwed over my Vols in the SEC Championship Game...he doesn't meet WP:ATHLETE. There's no proof the UFL will actually even get off the ground yet...we see startup leagues fail every single year. --Smashvilletalk 21:35, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions.  -- Giants27  ( c  |  s ) 15:52, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions.  -- Giants27  ( c  |  s ) 15:52, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions.  -- Giants27  ( c  |  s ) 15:52, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.