Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patrick Haseldine (0th nomination)

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The result of the debate was Delete. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:23, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Patrick Haseldine
The claims for notability are being a minor cause célèbre for being sacked in 1989, and then writing letters to the Guardian. I don't think that's enough, and I suspect autobiography or something similar is being practiced. David | Talk 21:21, 19 August 2005 (UTC).


 * Dbiv should read the main Pan Am 103 motives section: third motive. This is no autobiography being practised but an important addition to an unsolved mass murder investigation. --- ---
 * He writes letters alleging conspiracies to the Guardian. So what? Still doesn't make him notable. 19 unique Google hits incidentally, many of them articles he has contributed to online publications, most of the rest Wikipedia mirrors. David | Talk 22:29, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

a. he was on all the news bulletins (second lead-item on BBCtv's Nine O'Clock news, read by Michael Buerk) on December 7, 1988;
 * Keep Factual and verifiable article can be written. Trollderella 23:21, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, we can write a factual and verifiable article, but that still won't remedy the fact that he is completely nonnotable. Nandesuka 00:03, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. unheard of. (Notorious4life 02:53, 20 August 2005 (UTC))
 * Keep He adds to the sum of human knowledge. unsigned vote by User:81.154.84.86.
 * Delete NN. Xoloz 20:26, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep re Haseldine's notability:

b. he was dubbed Thatcher's Whitehall Critic by the national press;

c. his case was raised in Parliament by nine MPs: George Foulkes, Richard Cabourn, Dale Campbell-Savours, Bob Cryer, Tam Dalyell, Tony Lloyd, Dennis Skinner, Alan Williams and David Winnick;

d. he challenged his dismissal from the FCO at the European Court of Human Rights at Strasbourg (Haseldine v United Kingdom, 18957/92);

e. he had nine letters published in The Guardian, in eight of which he elaborated his accusation against apartheid South Africa of responsibility for the Lockerbie bombing; and, er...

f. what was David Boothroyd saying about notability? 217.42.134.81 15:02, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Point f is a personal attack which is also completely misplaced as I actually nominated the article on me for deletion. None of the points you make really denotes notability in my view. David | Talk 13:43, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Apologies David if you feel this was a personal attack: it was not so intended. The disagreement is solely over the interpretation of notability: 1. a prominent person 2. being notable: (i) worthy of note; remarkable (ii) distinguished; prominent. The page, as now edited, is significantly different from the one you nominated for deletion. Maybe you want to reconsider?81.154.84.88 18:30, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Definitely Notable. 81.155.208.193 20:30, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Definitely Not NN. 217.42.233.47 00:55, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.