Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patrick Leonard (baseball) (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 22:09, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Patrick Leonard (baseball)
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Does not meet the criteria of WP:NBASE or the previous, more lenient criteria for notability. He is a fifth-round draft pick who never reached the majors and never represented his country internationally. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 15:16, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Baseball. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 15:16, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - Meets NBASIC; besides the sources already in the article, there are articles about Leonard in Bleacher Report, USA Today, and The North State Journal. Hatman31 (talk) 19:27, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete don't think he made to the majors and just floated around the minor leagues for a few years, not sure that meets notability standards here. Generally, they have to play in the Majors or have extensive minor league history before getting an article here. He only seems to have hit anywhere from .260 to a .280, not bad but nothing spectacular. Average minor leaguer it seems. Oaktree b (talk) 20:04, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Can you explain why, specifically, Leonard does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NBASIC? Hatman31 (talk) 21:11, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Bleacher Report is three things I need to know about him and USA Today seems to be a few lines with mostly photos, neither of which is substantive coverage. The North State Journal looks ok. Rest of the sources are mostly passing mentions or brief pieces on him. He isn't a phenom tearing up the minors. Sources in the article basically just confirm where he played and what he did, there is hardly any mention of a family/social life, life after baseball or much of anything beyond stats. Oaktree b (talk) 21:44, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The USA Today piece has 534 words about Leonard; it appeared cut off to me initially, but that's the website's fault, not an issue with its content. I don't understand the demand that the sources discuss non-baseball topics; the reason they wrote about Leonard is because of his athletic career, so it seems natural that they focus on that. Finally, I strongly disagree that this, this, and this are "passing mentions or brief pieces". Hatman31 (talk) 22:56, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Multiple in-depth sources from third-party reliable sources, including the three mentioned by Hatman31. Easily passes GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 01:29, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Meets WP:GNG and WP:BASIC. Ejgreen77 (talk) 10:35, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per GNG, which makes whether he reached the majors or played internationally irrelevant. Rlendog (talk) 02:18, 1 August 2022 (UTC)


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