Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patrick Sawyer (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Mojo Hand (talk) 16:12, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Patrick Sawyer
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Notable for only one thing; part of a non-encyclopedic proliferation of articles on people who were infected with or died of Ebola. Previous deletion discussion had only a few participants and should not have been closed) Jytdog (talk) 16:00, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
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 * Keep: The subject is well covered in reliable sources, and he's covered beyond just being an "index case of ebola". there are publications on his background, family....and he's also an official for the Liberian Government. Then again, there are publications on how he evaded Quarantine, there are also reports that he urinated on health workers upon been told he had Ebola etc. So the subject is not just notable for bringing ebola, but more on the circumstance with which he brought the virus. WP:SINGLEEVENT states that "If the event is highly significant, and the individual's role within it is a large one, a separate article is generally appropriate".--Jamie Tubers (talk) 20:57, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * there is nothing in the article about him urinating on anyone. and ebola has not blown up into an outbreak in Nigeria.  He did not play a large role in anything large. Jytdog (talk) 00:29, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * The policy says "significant event" not "large event"....and first case of ebola in Nigeria was very significant, as it was well covered in the media and the role of Sawyer in the epidemic was large. And I was generally talking about what has been covered about him,1 2 not what is in the article....the article is obviously still starting and will eventually be expanded.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 00:42, 19 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep. Significant, sustained secondary source coverage of this deceased person from reliable sources and verifiable references from all over the globe that continues to increase in depth and breadth and scope of coverage. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:56, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete as COMMENT from nominator adding reasoning for nomination . Patrick Sawyer is notable for one thing, and one thing only, transmitting Ebola to Nigeria, which did not turn into an outbreak.  The many sources about him are mostly gossip that have nothing to do with actual notability (e.g. details of life, wife, job, etc are all trivia and are not of encyclopedic interest).  Wikipedia is WP:NOT a tabloid or gossip rag. He is not notable except for that one thing and his role in the 2014 Outbreak is discussed in that article (here), and that is appropriate. There is no justification to make a WP:SPLIT of the Ebola article and have a separate article on him. Jytdog (talk) 15:18, 19 October 2014 (UTC) (amended per discussion below Jytdog (talk) 19:00, 19 October 2014 (UTC))
 * You can only vote once; you've already done that with your nomination.....give all your rationales in your nomination post.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 15:25, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * removed strike. i would be happy to strike and move my comment up into the nomination myself, but please point me to the place in the instructions where there is support for the position you are taking and i will gladly do that.  thanks. Jytdog (talk) 16:19, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:DISCUSSAFD - "You can explain your earlier recommendation in response to others, but do not repeat your recommendation on a new bulleted line......Nomination already implies that the nominator recommends deletion (unless indicated otherwise), and nominators should refrain from repeating this recommendation on a separate bulleted line". please do get yourself familiar with Wikipedia's guidelines, and strike off the edit immediately (STRIKE OFF...do not delete the edit, so as not the disrupt the discussion) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamie Tubers (talk • contribs)
 * for fuck's sake - I asked you about this point of the discussion process; you don't need to jam that down my throat. that said, thank you for pointing out the instruction. Jytdog (talk) 19:00, 19 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge with Ameyo Adadevoh, then rename to Notable Nigerian fatalities of the 2014 Ebola outbreak. Keep only if there's something unique about each of the patients in relation to Ebola. -Mardus (talk) 20:34, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep: The subject is notable for being the index case in Nigeria leading to an outbreak in that country resulting in 8 confirmed deaths and is significant and notable as evidenced by sustained and consistent secondary source coverage. He is also notable because although he was under quarantine and surveillance by the Liberian health authorities and although he knew he was most probably infected with ebola virus he still managed to board international flights to Togo and Nigeria leading to the spread of the virus across international borders. Ochiwar (talk) 21:06, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep (do not merge). Obviously notable as a Patient Zero with a less-than-ethical (i.e., interesting) back-story.--Froglich (talk) 04:23, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge with text from Ameyo Adadevoh and information already in the Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa article to create a new country-specific detail article Ebola virus epidemic in Nigeria (which is currently just a redirect), that can be linked as a "main article" from Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa -- Impsswoon (talk) 10:02, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep (do not merge). The subject is notable as Patient Zero for the disease in Nigeria and his family's situation dealing with America's Social Security bureaucracy is potentially enlightening. It is better to err on the side of keeping too much information than to omit useful knowledge from Wikipedia. AmboyBeacon (talk) 06:30, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep (do not merge). Notable in that virus spread from Liberia to Nigeria through the subject and linked to outbreak in Nigeria as Patient Zero. Also, I found out about the outbreak in Nigeria through searching subject's name, so there's at least anecdotal evidence for notability. Original nominator's concerns can be addressed through continued checking of secondary sources. Swilk (talk) 16:32, 25 October 2014 (UTC)


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