Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patrick Smith (columnist)


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The result was   delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 07:50, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Patrick Smith (columnist)

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Not notable person who writes a column for his job - no decent independent coverage of his life - if his column (or anything else about him is notable) Ask the Pilot - currently it is a redirect to the BLP - no objection to a redirect to that.Off2riorob (talk) 23:52, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. Long-time columnist for notable publication, published author with book from major publisher.  I could live with turning it into an article about the column until sources are dug out and biographical/career data is expanded. Gamaliel (talk) 00:14, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I do not support any user that vote comments keep on a BLP that is uncited - in fact I object to such users.. Is his book wikipedia notable? - NO - Is his column wikipedia notable - NO - Is he wikipedia notable - NO. -  Off2riorob (talk) 00:18, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * His book is from an imprint of one of the world's largest and most prominent publishers. His column has appeared for nine years in a leading online publication.  Repeating your dissent from these facts in capital letters isn't any kind of response to them. Gamaliel (talk) 03:37, 3 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak delete Doesn't seem to have received any significant coverage as a person ╟─ Treasury Tag ►  senator  ─╢ 08:51, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Smith has written about a lot of notable topics, but that does not make HIM notable, as I can't find any WP:RS that indicates that anybody has written about HIM.  Fails WP:AUTHOR, WP:BK, WP:CREATIVE, etc. Qworty (talk) 18:59, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. I did a pretty good sweep looking for significant interviews. I see he's commented on a few things here and there, but his life/work has received no secondary critical response. — chro • man • cer 00:05, 6 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. Notable enough to be interviewed on National Public Radio by Andrea Seabrook http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89588760  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.8.255.149 (talk) 22:25, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thats not exactly an interview - its a three minute filler and its not about him at all. The full summary is - In 2008 when interviewed on NPR Smith said the skys are safer than the media would have you believe. Off2riorob (talk) 22:32, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * He's briefly introduced and then asked for some airline travel facts. Contributes no information about him that we don't already know. — chro • man • cer 20:41, 9 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete: As it fails basic notability as per WP:BIO ie "A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of multiple published secondary sources which are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject", the one inline references from his own website Ask the Pilot is an unreliable self-published source and not 'multiple published secondary sources'. It is I agree can be used on his own article but it can not be the only reference to base his notability on. I could live with a redirect/merge to Salon.com as that page already lists him as a contributor as well as his book. The two sentences on him can be incorporated without much effort.--Michaela den (talk) 10:53, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
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