Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patrick Stirling


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The result was keep. Sr13 03:51, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Patrick Stirling

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Not notable Corvus cornix 21:57, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep for reasons as with Matthew Stirling (above). Peterkingiron 23:29, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Just saying 'not notable' isn't much of an argument. This man, like his son, designed railway locomotives which were widely used in Britain during the heyday of steam.  The article is sourced and referenced.  The development of the railways was vitally important in Britain's economic growth in the 19th century and without men like this the industrial revolution wouldn't have happened.  He wasn't Stevenson but he, and men like him, helped build the modern world.  The fact that he worked in the pre-internet era in a now superceded branch of engineering, rather than software, doesn't mean he's not notable.
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of transportation-related deletions.   -- Peterkingiron 23:29, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Historically important British railway engineer with a very significant claim to notability, backed up by sources. The fact that he is covered in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography - a printed work with much narrower scope than Wikipedia - is a testament to his notability. The article needs work, and could use some stronger references, but that is not a reason to delete. The AfD nominator has not actually offered any arguments in favour of deletion (saying "not notable", without giving a reason, doesn't constitute an argument). AdorableRuffian 13:05, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Clearly notable designer. Nominator hasn't said why he or she believes the subject's not notable. Perhaps a misunderstanding re. American vs. British terminology? -- Charlene 13:19, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable designer and engineer. The speed record of his designed locamotive alone makes him notable.  The nom's comment was WP:JUSTAVOTE and not a case for deletion. --Oakshade 17:05, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Stirling's designs saw wide use and are known both in the UK and the US. Slambo (Speak) 18:57, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. There appears to be entirely no viable case for deletion here, though it would be great if someone knowledgeable about the subject could enhance the standard of the article. - Axver 14:07, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
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