Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Benson


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The result was delete all except Jones, Moxey and Stanley. -Royalguard11 (Talk·Desk·Review Me!) 01:48, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Paul Benson

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WP:BIO states that the players must have made an appearance in a fully professional league. Benson has not played a league game above Conference level.

For the same reason, I am nominating Rod Thornley, Darren Stride, Michael Morrison (footballer) Craig Mackail-Smith, Shaun Batt Martin Rice, Andrew Taylor (footballer born 1982), Jon Challinor, Patrick Ada, Dean Moxey, Paul Jones (footballer born 1986), George Friend, Daniel Seabourne, Darren Jones, Ryan Harrison (football), Mark Ricketts, Glenn Poole Johnathon Hedge, Brian Smikle, Gavin Hurren, Steven Drench, Adam Yates, David Perkins (footballer), James Bentley, Craig Stanley, Wayne Curtis, Danny Meadowcroft and Paul Lloyd. I've been through these players Soccerbase profiles and again can't spot any League appearances.

I know the Conference is approaching fully-professional status, but until it attains that these players fail WP:BIO. Precedents are here: Articles for deletion/Nicky Gray and Articles for deletion/Nicky Eyre
 * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. HornetMike 18:57, 4 January 2007 (UTC) HornetMike 18:57, 4 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete, Football Conference players in general fail WP:BIO. QmunkE 19:25, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per QmunkE. -- Bpmullins | Talk 20:00, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete all as per nomination. I can find no trace of any of these players on "allfootballers.com" either. Daemonic Kangaroo 20:37, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete- these players have not played for a team in a fully professional league. If they do in the future, then, then they will merit an article. But not now. Robotforaday 01:32, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete all as per WP:BIO and HornetMike's diligent research. Qwghlm 01:38, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete most, except Dean Moxey, Martin Rice, Paul Jones (footballer born 1986) + posibly others - delete players that fail WP:BIO. However Moxey and Rice both played (ie. made appearences) for Exeter City F.C. before the club was relegated (ie. when they were still in a professional league); ergo these two players do not fail WP:BIO. Other listed Exeter players arrived after relegation so do fail. Jones I beleive qualifies per other competitive activities that are themselves considered notable due to his FA Cup apperences and awards for such. There is an article on The FA website which backs this up but I can't find the link right this second. Poobarb 05:20, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - I hate to disagree but Moxey & Rice both made their debuts for Exeter City in 2003-04 i.e. after they had been relegated to the Conference. With regard to Jones, this should be a Keep in view of his exploits in the FA Cup against Manchester United as mentioned in his article. Daemonic Kangaroo 06:45, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Further comment I have now added the FA website link to the Paul Jones article. Daemonic Kangaroo 08:46, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Damn, I was sure they'd played the season before that - sorry, my mistake. However, upon re-reading the link to the article on Jones, I was reminded that Moxey still qualifies for the same reason as Jones though! (The article makes refrence to the fact that Jones' winning of the award combined with Moxey's made Exeter the first non-league club to have two players win it.) I therefore change my oppinion to Keep Moxey, Jones; Delete others per WP:BIO. Poobarb 10:20, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - Additionally, I now agree Keep Stanley as per below comments. Poobarb 15:52, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - I agree now that Dean Moxey should also be a Keep and have also added a link to the FA website on his article. Craig Stanley should also be a Keep as per Campdave below. (It's difficult to assimilate the careers of 29 players at a time!) Daemonic Kangaroo 13:27, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete all bar Jones, Moxey and Stanley as per comments above and below, WP:BIO, precedent, etc, allowing for possible future re-creation if any join a Football League team ChrisTheDude 08:16, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete all bar David Perkins, Craig Stanley as these players have captained the England National Side. Additionally, Craig Stanley has played for Raith Rovers on loan Campdave 10:11, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment That's a misleading comment - they captained the England National Game XI, not the England national football team as your comment implies. The England National Game XI is a team made of semi-professionals not professionals, and there is no precedent established here to suggest that captains of the XI are considered notable. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Qwghlm (talk • contribs) 10:30, 5 January 2007 (UTC).
 * Delete all bar Jones, Moxey and Standley. Deletes per WP:BIO professionalism criterion and keeps per above argument. – Elisson • T • C • 21:13, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * BALEETE them all. ~ Flameviper 22:21, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


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