Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul G. Abel


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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 05:20, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Paul G. Abel

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The article presents a short biography of an educator and his accomplishments. Though the subject of the article has appeared on a television program called The Sky at Night, the article appears to be an example of self-promotion and publicity (WP:SPIP) and likely fails meet the notability requirements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnstevenbrook (talk • contribs)


 * Procedural Note: This nomination was missing its template and was not listed at AFD. Please consider the time of this comment as the time of listing when closing. Monty  845  04:02, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Astronomy-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 06:38, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. XOR&#39;easter (talk) 15:39, 12 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete no indication of notability from independent reliable sources outside of show/self-promotion after 8-9 years of being tagged. One of two articles (along with another The Sky at Night presenter Peter B. Lawrence) created by a single-purpose account who also uploaded the headshots to commons (Commons:Special:Contributions/Timelike). This has all the hallmarks of vanity page creations and doubtful legitimate copyright to those images because of their non-candid appearance (maybe copied from the old BBC website?). I've WP:PRODed the other article for now. -- Netoholic @  17:52, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Nonexistent research citations and a teaching position mean no pass of WP:PROF. No in-depth independent sources for his role as a BBC co-presenter are apparent. And even his book Visual Lunar and Planetary Astronomy appears to have left barely any trace in independent sources (I found one inclusion of it in a listing of recent books, not an in-depth review) so WP:AUTHOR seems to be out as well. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:29, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Update: Make that three books. Visual Lunar and Planetary Astronomy, Stargazers Notebook, and (co-authored) How to Read the Solar System: A Guide to the Stars and Planets. With one published review that I could find, of the co-authored book. Still not enough reviews for WP:AUTHOR. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:35, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I take it the view of other commenters here is that Fellow of the Royal Astronomical Society is a non-significant award for purposes of notability? --JBL (talk) 18:13, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Judging by that article and the official website, I'd say that it is not a significant award for wiki-notability purposes. XOR&#39;easter (talk) 19:33, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Right, I was going to mention that but forgot. FRAS is definitely too non-selective to count towards WP:PROF notability. —David Eppstein (talk) 20:44, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:AUTHOR, fails WP:SIGCOV. E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:39, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete without prejudice against recreation if, e.g., he writes another book that gets more reviews. XOR&#39;easter (talk) 21:28, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per comments by Eppstein and others. --Tataral (talk) 13:29, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete I am not 'abel' to find any sources online to show notability and the ones provided don't either. Not everyone who appears on TV should get an article. THEFlint Shrubwood (talk) 17:29, 15 May 2019 (UTC)


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