Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul H. Carr (2nd nomination)


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The result was merge to USS Carr (FFG-52). Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  18:01, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Paul H. Carr
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Fails WP:SOLDIER and WP:GNG as a one-time recipient of the Silver Star. Lettlerhello • contribs 16:29, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete Same case as Articles for deletion/William Finnic Cates and Articles for deletion/Jordan C. Haerter. – Cupper 52 Discuss! 17:06, 24 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep A warship was named after him which is a "significant award or honor" and so passes WP:ANYBIO. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:17, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Oklahoma-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:51, 24 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Redirect to USS Carr (FFG-52). Fails WP:SOLDIER (Gunner's mate 3rd class posthumously awarded a Silver Star. Having a ship named after him is not a "significant award or honor") and WP:GNG. No SIGCOV in multiple RS so not notable. Mztourist (talk) 03:38, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge to USS Carr (FFG-52) per above. Doesn't pass for a stand alone article, but the content will improve the target article, be less fragmented, and give the content more readership. Per WP:N, "Editors may use their discretion to merge or group two or more related topics into a single article."  // Timothy :: talk  06:24, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect and Merge to USS Carr (FFG-52), it's more appropriate to have relevant information about a ship's namesake in the ship's article than a completely separate article. Best, GPL93 (talk) 02:32, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep I would note that this is there is a previous nomination for deletion that just went down the tubes. This is the second nomination.  This fact is being knowingly suppressed – on many articles, but it does appear here.  See Articles for deletion/Edward Henry Allen.  The record should be corrected accordingly.  There is a systemic attempt to hide that fact over many articles.
 * This is a procedural hijack and an attempt to make sure that editors who do their job properly won't have time to respond.
 * This is relevant, and it should be fixed. It is a fact.  It is always put into the history.  I've never seen this, and it is a direct result of the misbegotten attempt to purge a couple of hundred articles.  And all at once, overwhelming the limited number of editors who actively try to save articles, while at the same time trolling those editors to make their job difficult and discourage them with distractions.  Apparently it takes no time to resurrect hundreds of Navy Cross/Silver star/Ship name honorees for deletion.  It takes a lot of time to respond and improve all of these articles.  This is in fact a second nomination (among many).  And given the fact that there is no good faith compliance with WP:Before and a blatant disregard of sources that exist but aren't cited — which do factor in to notability, this sneak attack is (dare I say it) ... a date that will live in infamy.  You are distorting the process and rigging the outcomes.
 * Subject meets or exceeds WP:GNG. No compliance with WP:Before.  The protocol is that one should not only look at the present cited sources, but available sources, too. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 14:12, 30 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Redirect to USS Carr (FFG-52). Lack of in-depth coverage causes him to fail WP:GNG, and he definitely doesn't meet WP:NSOLDIER. Contrary to the assertions by some, having a ship named after you is not part of any SN guideline, and not cause for automatic notability.  I would say merge, but the pertinent data is already in the ship's article.  Onel 5969  TT me 16:36, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge into USS Carr (FFG-52), fails GNG, only a single source provides SIGCOV of the individual. Cavalryman (talk) 01:24, 2 February 2021 (UTC).


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